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    Snowy
    Joined: 15 Jun 2012

    @Megatron1505:

    Go hunting you lazy bum  😉

    Not lazy, don't have Facebook, and am not signing up just to read this. If it was good you'd happily share here, or so I'm hoping ::)

    last edited by 19 Jul 2014, 10:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      you don't have to sign up to look

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        Snowy
        Joined: 15 Jun 2012

        ^^^^

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        Email or Phone:

        It's okay, I can imagine what it says, was only jesting, not all good that it's happening, but don't need to see.

        last edited by 19 Jul 2014, 11:29 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          Oh, sorry.  I thought you could look at stuff, but not contribute….

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

          last edited by 19 Jul 2014, 11:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            dlaz
            Joined: 19 Jul 2012

            Giles and Mega,
            There is some way for IH to report it,because like software piracy & entertainment medias there's a dept that handles it here. They even do raids and seizure of items. Please do lodge an official complain from the manufacturer. We can't do much here. What they meant by "they just wanna wear" is not defending them,but its the nature of things. Without demand there won't be a supply. And we here are powerless to do anything legal against those sellers. And those fuckin sellers,they don't give a shit except making money. Momotaro was one of the earliest japanese brand that got ripped for the past year,now they're getting to IH and samurai's. Eventhough evisu was ripped off way2 early 4-5 years ago,but it didn't reach to today's level.

            Seriously,all of us that has an IH,Samurai,Momo etc,knows that we saved up our money to buy them. Some of them are even saying that we're rich people that can afford it. Seriously, they really have a retarded mentalities.

            just my 2 cents. you can check out the sellers IG and FB for more details,like KAITAI.

            HC-MD-01

            last edited by 19 Jul 2014, 15:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              Giles
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

              @dlaz Thank you.  Do you know how I/we find contact details for that organization?  G

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

              last edited by 19 Jul 2014, 15:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                dlaz
                Joined: 19 Jul 2012

                @Giles I will look it up for you. If I'm not mistaken its under the trade ministry.

                HC-MD-01

                last edited by 19 Jul 2014, 15:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  Megatron1505
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                  Thanks for helping out with this @dlaz , I feel bad not only for the real brands but for guys like you who work hard for your good gear, I think Malaysia in particular has a great denim scene and I hate that these idiot fakers might make people think otherwise.

                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

                  last edited by 19 Jul 2014, 15:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Fergz
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 14 Jan 2012

                    Mega made the point and the same thing baffles me. Why, if you have the means, would you not just create something original. If fakes are being sold to dupe people or if people knowingly buy fakes to pretend they have the actual item then the duped should really know much much better (the amount of research I did first time round!) and the fakers should engage their brains because the whole point of quality denim is the fabric, the feel, the cut and the tradition.

                    I wonder how much of this shoddy merch is actually sold?

                    "Better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission"

                    last edited by 19 Jul 2014, 15:36 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Megatron1505
                      見習いボス
                      Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                      Speaking to some guys who messaged me yesterday it sadly seems like quite a lot of these jeans are sold, and it also seems that the reason these guys don't just make their own brand is that their manufacturing policy might not be entirely ethical.

                      From my understanding of what I was told yesterday many of these fake jeans are actually made in China and sold in Malaysia and Thailand mainly.

                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

                      last edited by 19 Jul 2014, 15:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Fergz
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 14 Jan 2012

                        Makes sense that the means are unethical. Still didn't understand why the denim sells. Kudos for going deep end there Mega. Sounds like a lot of the group members are understandably disenfranchised with how their Sammy discussion page morphed into a fake denim bazaar. Why don't the page administrators just lock those perps down?

                        "Better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission"

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                          Megatron1505
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                          It seems that the admins aren't very active, to be fair to many of the groups members they have asked the admins to take action.

                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

                          last edited by 19 Jul 2014, 18:17 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            Megatron1505
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                            Quick follow up piece to clarify a little of what I have learned about the piracy of denim, and what ordinary consumers can do to stop it…

                            http://denimhq.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/denim-hq-to-clarify/

                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

                            last edited by 20 Jul 2014, 08:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              JCMx800
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 20 Sept 2012

                              The kaitaigarage Instagram Feed is so…. Weird...
                              Are those dudes really into Denim, or are they just random customers???

                              Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
                              XXX

                              last edited by 20 Jul 2014, 16:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                dlaz
                                Joined: 19 Jul 2012

                                i don't really check his feeds,only sometimes to check what other fakes he has.
                                That guy is number one fake reseller so far that we've noticed that is online.
                                i don't think they're into denim,just people jumping on the bandwagon.

                                HC-MD-01

                                last edited by 21 Jul 2014, 00:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  chazychaz
                                  Joined: 4 Feb 2012

                                  For those who dont have fb



                                  This fella is the supply those fake item into night market so during this festive season we will end up seeing things like this

                                  last edited by 22 Jul 2014, 13:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    Those "Iron Hearts" - Vomit…..

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                    last edited by 22 Jul 2014, 13:54 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      daynym
                                      Joined: 23 Jul 2010

                                      80-100 rm is still expensive for this shit. Dunno how much much these fellas earn in average, but 20€ for a piece of crap is pretty steep.

                                      You can easily wear a good pair of light worn denim for 5-10 years (if in rotation and good care).
                                      I have seen good offers around 100 usd from time to time.
                                      Good advise by Gav with the buying and selling options in denim forums.

                                      why so serious?

                                      last edited by 22 Jul 2014, 14:56 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        JCMx800
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 20 Sept 2012

                                        They are 300RM…

                                        Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
                                        XXX

                                        last edited by 22 Jul 2014, 18:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Megatron1505
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                                          I have made it my mission to screw their business over in any way I can.

                                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

                                          last edited by 22 Jul 2014, 19:16 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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