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    • Megatron1505M
      Megatron1505
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      @urbanwoodsman:

      @Chris:

      I'd keep them.

      Having lived with the soft toe for a while, I think all mine will have celastic from now on.

      Finally. I'm glad someone with experience admitted their preference of the celastic toe. Soft toe has never made any sense to me.

      Me neither, it just looks like another thing to make your expensive boots look prematurely old.

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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      • ChrisC
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        Really, it depends on the boot.  Viberg service boots with the deconstructed toe look fine and feel good.  White's boots with the same construction don't work as well.  From a comfort standpoint, no celastic can make sense- leather only construction is a bit more forgiving.  Celastic can sometimes be too rigid and unyielding, especially for people with problematic feet (hammer toes or bunions, in particular).  That said, I have pretty ordinary feet and now that I've had a pair for about a year, I have a better understanding of what I like and what will work for me.  Others may feel differently.

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        • J
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          My personal opinion, but to start I like the look of a structured toe box much more. Second I think the solid box ensures a boot breaks to my foot just how I like without them looking too sloppy by end of their first sole. I have pretty long toes though, so how my boots bend and break over themselves differs a little from others.

          Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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          • BluegrassB
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            Fuck it, I'm keeping them.  By the time I spoke to Josh at Baker's I'd already decided to keep them - but he was real nice, said White's does not generally like to do a soft toe in bullhide since its so soft it collapses almost immediately, and he thought I'd like this better.  I suspect he's right - I'm happy - minor freakout.  You spend all the time deciding what to do, it can make you kind of nuts.  Wore them tonight, real comfy just like my others.

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            • S
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              They look excellent.

              Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk

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              • 4c4
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                good choice Bluegrass

                soft toe bullhide picture hear: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Whites-Boots-Semi-Dress-Black-5-top-size-9-5-D-/310814655705?pt=US_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item485dff44d9&nma=true&si=LFaJB5RJ%252BoDJxXBi4s0b3CAk8P0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

                BTW: my boots have been sent from bakers to be delivered this Tuesday… and they weigh 8 pounds!

                Edit: Took another look and it says 8.8 pounds!

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                • BluegrassB
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                  Wow, thanks for sharing that - the toes do look "mushy" and they are brand new.

                  And good Lord, I just checked, and mine were listed as 7 lbs!  Cant wait to see those babies.  Tuesday will be here in no time.

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                  • J
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                    I think you made the right choice.

                    Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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                    • ChrisC
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                      @Bluegrass:

                      White's does not generally like to do a soft toe in bullhide since its so soft it collapses almost immediately, and he thought I'd like this better.

                      He's right…
                      @Chris:

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                      • 4c4
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                        Either smashed boots or very over-engineered moccasins…
                        If Iron Heart made moccasins… 😉

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                        • S
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                          The entire issue could have been avoided if Baker's had called/emailed you before building your boot, or even before shipping, or even by including a note letting you know. Whilst sensible, it's not a great demonstration of customer service.

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                          • BluegrassB
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                            Agree.

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                            • 4c4
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                              +1
                              That being said… if lace to toe soft toe is a bad idea I hope they change my order.  🙂

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                              • J
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                                Given how the break over on a boot like that is pushed toward the toe, it might actually accentuate the problem.

                                Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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                                • BluegrassB
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                                  If its a thicker heavier leather you should be OK.  I've never seen a pic. of a soft toe lace to toe boot.  It's just so hard to tell with custom boots, you never truly know what it will be like until you open that box.  Here is another soft toe Smoke Jumper, obviously thicker leather than bullhide.

                                  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151999717002281&set=o.198093005548&type=3&theater

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                                  • Sopiarz3S
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                                    sent my order in to bakers today.  These will be my first MTO boots. Whats the lead time currently for these?

                                    Custom Semi Dress by White's Boots
                                    Toe Bug Stitching: No Thank You
                                    Midsole: Single
                                    Pull Loops: No Thanks
                                    Toe Bug Stitching Color: Does not apply
                                    Hardware: All Brass Eyes
                                    Upper (Shaft) Leather: British Tan
                                    Sole: Vibram 700
                                    Size - Width: B
                                    Last: Standard
                                    Heel Lifts: Standard
                                    Leather Liner: Tan
                                    Edge: Brown
                                    Size - Length: 10
                                    Toe Vamp Leather: British Tan
                                    Toe Cap: No Thanks
                                    Celastic Toe Box: Single Celastic Toe
                                    Heel Base: Standard
                                    Sole Trim: Standard Trim

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                                    • 4c4
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                                      about 3+ weeks–- very fast!

                                      sounds like a nice build Sopiarz3

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                                      • BluegrassB
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                                        Nice, you will be happy.  I got mine in 3-4 weeks. They always say 8 at Baker's.

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                                          Can anyone speak to the advantages of a Smoke Jumper versus Bounty Hunter and vice versa (ie: standard last vs semi dress)? I'm sure the differences are minimal and subjective at best, but I'm having a tough time deciding which to get. From my understanding the main thing is more room above the toe box etc. on SJ's.
                                          Example:
                                          Smoke Jumper: http://store.whw.jp/?pid=41993162
                                          Bounty Hunter: http://store.whw.jp/?pid=47912275

                                          I'm leaning towards straight up Smoke Jumpers on a 6 inch height, much like the first pair in black above. However why the popularity towards Bounty Hunters? Is it just the cleaner lines, slimmer profile? Sorry, I know this question gets asked a lot 😉

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                                          • tigerpacT
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                                            ^Yes, cleaner lines and slimmer profile.  It is by no means a slim profile, but a little more adaptable to non-firefighting situations.  You'll love either though.

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