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    • SeulS
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      Thanks t_w_e!.. My mate's response. Not that I wanna drag this out or make a drama about it (Seth exaggerates the situation a bit in his description), just something I had actually never thought about, but he makes a good point… I'd rather not support a homophobic, racist b*stard such as Mugabi y'know...  😎

      _Did some more reading since that first post. The situation for cotton farmers in Zimbabwe is dismal at best. They're waaaay underpaid for their crops, as the exports are either handled by Cottco or Cargill, both huge corporations. So farmers are often paid less than the price necessary to even break even.

      As for the US ag industry, I too live right in the middle of it. Your dude isn't wrong; it's not pretty for a lot if families. Corporate exploitation by Monsanto etc, has driven most of them into the red. But that's a rotten comparison. If an American farm family hits bottom, they get food stamps and wear thrift clothing. Maybe lose their home. If a Zimbabwean farm family hits bottom, they die of starvation before the AIDS that a quarter of the country's population has can get them.

      I think your guys are probably choosing quality cotton over social responsibility. Which, I mean, is their decision. Just means that I'll have to shop for retardedly expensive jeans elsewhere. Haha. Thanks for the Samurai link, on that note!_

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        @Seul:

        Thanks t_w_e!.. My mate's response. Not that I wanna drag this out or make a drama about it (Seth exaggerates the situation a bit in his description), just something I had actually never thought about, but he makes a good point… I'd rather not support a homophobic, racist b*stard such as Mugabi y'know...  😎

        _Did some more reading since that first post. The situation for cotton farmers in Zimbabwe is dismal at best. They're waaaay underpaid for their crops, as the exports are either handled by Cottco or Cargill, both huge corporations. So farmers are often paid less than the price necessary to even break even.

        As for the US ag industry, I too live right in the middle of it. Your dude isn't wrong; it's not pretty for a lot if families. Corporate exploitation by Monsanto etc, has driven most of them into the red. But that's a rotten comparison. If an American farm family hits bottom, they get food stamps and wear thrift clothing. Maybe lose their home. If a Zimbabwean farm family hits bottom, they die of starvation before the AIDS that a quarter of the country's population has can get them.

        I think your guys are probably choosing quality cotton over social responsibility. Which, I mean, is their decision. Just means that I'll have to shop for retardedly expensive jeans elsewhere. Haha. Thanks for the Samurai link, on that note!_

        Definitely food for thought!!

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          @Seul:

          I think your guys are probably choosing quality cotton over social responsibility. Which, I mean, is their decision. Just means that I'll have to shop for retardedly expensive jeans elsewhere. Haha. Thanks for the Samurai link, on that note!

          😞 😛 ::)
          http://www.megavideo.com/?v=OEGO9ZF2

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          • SeulS
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            Guy has a condescending air about him, I know Landon. He is super PC and we clash often.

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            • deadendproD
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              heheehe, i think that Lando and I are quite biased, cant keep us away from Nike.

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              Currently Wearing:
              SExSx3s 27-01
              15.4oz 3sixteen Type 3
              25oz Samurai Type 1

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              • GilesG
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                Devils Fit for you then…G

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • BeatleB
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                  what's in ur avatar , Lando ?

                  We can do anything

                  http://bybeatle.com

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                    A giant lump of Indian Indigo Dye…

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                    • ronaldlshR
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                      Weird. I can't access to the forum on my computer. It says that it's under maintenance, and that the forum is moving to another server.

                      I'm using my mobile now.

                      THE RAW WAR

                      @ronaldlsh:

                      > Just going to keep wearing IH.

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                      • ronaldlshR
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                        I still can't get in. Anyone facing the same problem?

                        THE RAW WAR

                        @ronaldlsh:

                        > Just going to keep wearing IH.

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                        • hecticH
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                          R: Try clearing your cache on your PC browser

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                          • DragonD
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                            Just curious to find out, how important is the detailing of a chainstitch as opposed to a lockstitch to you for the jean hem? (general question to everyone who feels like replying  :))

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                            • BeatleB
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                              to me it's essential

                              We can do anything

                              http://bybeatle.com

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                              • BeatleB
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                                or to rephrase it - not chainstitching the hem feels like riding a car with 3 wheels

                                We can do anything

                                http://bybeatle.com

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                                  Roping is sweet and so chainstitching is crucial.  😉

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                                  • ronaldlshR
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                                    @Beatle:

                                    or to rephrase it - not chainstitching the hem feels like riding a car with 3 wheels

                                    That is the reason that is holding me back on hemming my jeans.

                                    THE RAW WAR

                                    @ronaldlsh:

                                    > Just going to keep wearing IH.

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                                    • BeatleB
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                                      needless to say that I'm green with envy - but which island are The Lord and his queen gonna stay at whilst vacating in the Bahamas ?

                                      We can do anything

                                      http://bybeatle.com

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        Wanna know?

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • BeatleB
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                                          ehm - yes ? Questions to which you seek an answer ?

                                          We can do anything

                                          http://bybeatle.com

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            http://www.thebahamasguide.com/islands/andros/default.htm

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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