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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    IH-9634Z - 21oz Non-Fade Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Superblack

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      Hmmmm, I wonder what the difference in denim construction is, cause I gotta say having been keeping the zippered superblacks on a somwhat limited rotation, they feel great.  I almost bought the bootcut just to avoid the zipper, but since wearing them while cycling they've worked perfectly (smaller leg opening) and the zipper is seriouisly growing on me.  I think I just like the fact that my only pair of zippered jeans is IH.  🙂

      "These are the same weight as the IH9634, but the denim is a lot softer to the touch."

      Giles, do you know what differences in the denim/dye produce a softer hand on these jeans?

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        @Dchill:

        Damn that zipper bums me out. 😞

        +5000

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          I'll tell ya something else. I agree with LandoCal – I love the material of the original SuperBlack.  I don't want it softer !!! cuz I so love the stiff, rugged original. If it ain't broke, don't fix it !

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          • GilesG
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            @that_was_easy:

            Giles, do you know what differences in the denim/dye produce a softer hand on these jeans?

            Seek and you will find…..Answer from Haraki:

            They are same denim but different finish applied. Iron Heart used to have problem with old fabric because the stiffness which created unexpected creases on the jeans and sometimes the creases caused ripping. So they changed the finishing to current finish that make look almost same but softer. That was a good modification for Japanese customers.

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              @Giles:

              @that_was_easy:

              Giles, do you know what differences in the denim/dye produce a softer hand on these jeans?

              Seek and you will find…..Answer from Haraki:

              They are same denim but different finish applied. Iron Heart used to have problem with old fabric because the stiffness which created unexpected creases on the jeans and sometimes the creases caused ripping. So they changed the finishing to current finish that make look almost same but softer. That was a good modification for Japanese customers.

              Very interesting Giles. So the new SuperBlack material must be more durable. Seems counter-intuitive but Haraki don't lie.

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                Think about it this way…what's more durable, paper or a doritos chip? The super stiff stuff cracks

                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                  Yup paper. Makes sense DougNg. Not bad for an NYU Grad (:):):) !

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                    😉

                    I used to spend a lot of time teaching people in my old life

                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                      Thanks a heap for the technical explanation Giles, I love it.  Half the reason IH appeals is that it's seemingly a requirement that one geek's out, as it were.  And Doug, thank you for taking denim's 'crispy' qaulity to a whole 'nother level.  Lol.

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                        Anyone with this version have any updates on how the denim differs from the OG IH-9634? Thanks!

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                        • Max PowerM
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                          The 9634Z is displayed with a lanyard /key rein in your webstore. Does this come with the pants or is it just for the pictures? And are the 22 oz post-soak (hence the label says 21 oz in the pictures)?

                          @elclintor:

                          > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                            Comes with the Lanyard.  Haraki described these to me as 22oz.  I have always called them 22oz but for some reason he labels them as 21.  Let's put it this way, size for size they weigh more than a pair of 634S
                            …G

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              Update.  I actually just re weighed a pair of 634S and a pair of 9634Z and whilst the 9634Z were heavier, not enough to warrant an ounce. so I'm going to update the website…G

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • Max PowerM
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                                Thanks for the info. The lanyard is a nice gimmick! Maybe you should put that on the page too, as motivation to buy. For me, it equals the missing buttons…

                                @elclintor:

                                > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                • riffblaster generalR
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                                  does anyone have fit pics of these?  now that i own some 634s's im considering a pair of these.

                                  PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                                  • Max PowerM
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                                    Shouldn't they fit exactly like the 634? Not sure, though.

                                    @elclintor:

                                    > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                      Pretty much the same cut, yes

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • riffblaster generalR
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                                        i just noticed in the measurements that the rear rises seem to be different.  thats all.

                                        PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                                          Notably slimmer in the waist / top block (terms interchangable?) because the denim stretches less, IME, which includes ownership of 634S-B, but not 634S.  Thighs, knee, etc. sometimes feel about the same, but it's difficult to compare because of the extreme difference in drape and stiffness.  I put these through much more abuse than any other piece of clothing I own and only the seat is barely starting to pill from saddle wear, after somewhere in the neighborhood of 1000 miles.

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                                          • riffblaster generalR
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                                            awesome review.  very helpful! did you go tts?  i usually size down one to account for stretch.  i actually sized down 2 on my 634s but that doesnt seem possible with these.

                                            PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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