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    • Jordan23J
      Jordan23
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      @Max:

      …
      I ve never meet somebody on the street (and i live in a big city) wearing it too, so I don't care if 1000 people over the world own one 😛 I wear it for the product and look, not for the exclusivity)

      This!

      Enjoy ya addiction!

      AE

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      • SeulS
        Seul
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        @Jordan23:

        @Max:

        …
        I ve most likely never meet somebody on the street (and i live in a big city) wearing it too, so I don't care if 1000 people over the world own one 😛 I wear it for the product and look, not for the exclusivity)

        This!

        This has nothing to do with the biz side of it though…

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        • Max PowerM
          Max Power
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          No, but with those that said that they prefer the low stocks as they love to own exclusive items.

          @elclintor:

          > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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          • SeulS
            Seul
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            Part of the charm…

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            • summ3rhaysS
              summ3rhays
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              Fascinating exchange. I've enjoyed hearing both sides. Being new I'll keep my input to myself. I preordered the jeans, but didn't start ordering until really digging into the forums. It has to drive a lot of business.

              IG: summ3rhays & Indigobleed

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              • G
                grandmasterben
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                I'm sure that Iron Heart is growing but is it really that popular? I'm not going to comment on supply/demand stuff, I'm just wondering if you dudes actually see anyone that you couldn't recognize from the forums wearing it on the street.

                Also, I'm not sure if there are so many newbies. There are a lot of old posters that don't come around anymore and it's the nature of such an accessible forum to fill that void; I don't think it indicates any huge shift from old to newcomers. Anyway, just wanted to get into the convo

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                • Max PowerM
                  Max Power
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                  Well, it's 2700+ members round here now. Remember the 1000 member draw? And when you look at other forums like Sufu, IH is among the most popular brands and for many the first real japanese jeans. Same goes for Samurai. But I have only met one guy with IH on the street so far.

                  @elclintor:

                  > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                  • FergzF
                    Fergz
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                    @Max:

                    But I have only met one guy with IH on the street so far.

                    Zero for me. IH and other quality products are a personal philosophy. To everyone else they're "just" a pair of blue jeans.

                    "Better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission"

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                    • S
                      Snowy
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                      last time I ran the numbers IH represented around 0.1% of the global market…The holy Google shows how the search term (which has to be at least heavily representative) has grown;

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                      • natehateN
                        natehate
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                        @Giles:

                        Anyone get any ideas of how we could improve?

                        Pre-ordering is not a solution as people change their mind or size. 
                        Completing a form giving an indication of what people want in advance is useless, because everyone completes the form "just in case" and we get left with loads of stuff that is hard to get rid of.

                        And Max, I take a load more of each item now (if available) than I did in the past.  I probably brought over no more than 12-15 IHSH-20's.  With the IHSH-72, I probably got in about 80 (and I restocked at least twice when I realised I had under estimated demand).  Plus there are more retailers now who take the stuff as well.

                        Here's another issue.  We all hated it when shirts would pop up from another brand made in the same fabric as an Iron Heart shirt.  So now, in the main, we design all our own fabric.  We have to estimate total demand and then get the fabric woven, if we run out, we are really stuffed as we can't just pop down to the mill and buy another roll.

                        I'm not defending my position or my approach,  I spend long sleepless nights trying to solve this dilemma.

                        i think for the most part you guys are doing a bang up job
                        the only items i have ever missed and been bummed were due to things like really limited numbers like the black chino selvedge western ihsh69
                        but i believe that was a production issue and not a ordering issue
                        the one thing i think could help ih more is a more consistent cut across the shirt rang, every shirt has a different cut to it and i understand that some of its due to materials and how they act differently but that cant account for it all
                        some shirts in almost the exact same material come out completely different (20-72 for example)
                        just my 2 cents

                        don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                        • bagley920B
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                          Only complaint I've ever had was the latest TW shirts where there was exactly ONE of each size. Maybe TW shirts aren't at the top of the agenda but if you're going to only do 5-6 total shirts, what's the point? Just wondering…

                          If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                          • GilesG
                            Giles
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                            We did not do 5 or 6.  As I have said elsewhere, we did a lot more, but Roger@VMC placed a large order.  Of course I could have cut him back, indeed I could have been super-selfish and given him none, but sometimes favours need to repaid and debts settled….

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • ChrisC
                              Chris
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                              Looking back over the 3+ years of the forum, Giles has said time and again that one of his biggest headaches is trying to predict demand and sizing.  It's a total crapshoot for the most part.  The recent run of TW shirts sold in a couple of hours, but other things that should have sold easily still linger on, even after hefty discounting (Forum tee shirts leap to mind).  I don't doubt that the issue has been a constant source of debate for the Iron Heart crew, with no easy end in sight.

                              Sadly, I'm not smart enough or experienced enough in retail sales to try and tell Giles and Haraki how to do it better.  I wish I could.

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                              • rocketR
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                                just saw a TV announcement for a coming programm and spotted something familar:

                                Dutch comedian Philip Simon

                                rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

                                It's all humbug, like everywhere
                                R.I.P. Geo

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                                • SeulS
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                                  Hah, wow!.. That's pretty freakin great!.. Although I don't know the guy but hey…

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                                  • FurattoHeddoF
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                                    According to his wiki page he currently lives in Berlin, so maybe he shops @DC4 … IH suits him very well...

                                    "Don't ever be sorry"

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                                    • rocketR
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                                      don't know him neither, but seems he works mainly in Germany and yeah if he lives in Berlin that would make a lot of sense… anyway, found it cool to saw a IH item on TV... and shows that the dude have taste...

                                      rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

                                      It's all humbug, like everywhere
                                      R.I.P. Geo

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                                      • SeulS
                                        Seul
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                                        A 27 and a 13… Def has good taste...  😉

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                                        • FurattoHeddoF
                                          FurattoHeddo
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                                          @Seul:

                                          A 27 71 and a 13… Def has good taste...  😉

                                          😉

                                          "Don't ever be sorry"

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                                          • SeulS
                                            Seul
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                                            Stitching should've been a dead give away…

                                            gets his coat and leaves through the back…

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