IH-707 - Mercerised Cotton Chino Pants

[KrisB]

Hey G, Are you planning to do these in black?

[Giles]

Not that I know of….Let's see how these do first...

[SimonQ.]

@Giles:

Not that I know of….Let's see how these do first...

chinos always do great

[KrisB]

@SimonQ.:

@Giles:

Not that I know of….Let's see how these do first...

chinos always do great

Agreed. G, are these going to be selvedge?  And will they be at all slubby due to its raw-ness?

[Giles]

The are super sleek and non selvedge but both leg seams are felled, so you would not know anyway…..

[simonc]

Sleek is good.

[gbougard]

I'll be in for a pair!

[Giles]

[Giles]

Live…

http://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/ih-707.html

[cecil]

Any stretching in the waist to expect from these? Judging by the measurements it looks like it would be wise to go down one size from your normal. Would you consider these as a "slim cut" G?

[Giles]

I'd consider them slimmish.  May get a bit of stretch, it is a twill weave…..

[simonc]

Just arrived, thanks, they are slimmish, i measured my 36's and they are 18 across, which is 36, not 38 as you have measured, dunno why, but they are 18 inches across done up.  Now I am going to wash these and you say they will shrink by an inch?  They will be very tight on me then.

[Giles]

I have just dome a sample check.  All the ones I sampled measure as per the chart.  So either you have a rogue pair, or we are measuring differently…..

[simonc]

I'm not sure how you measure but this is how I did it. 
http://imgur.com/074Rz7y
http://imgur.com/MlcB4sE

[bagley920]

http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2835.0

[simonc]

Of course.  Much bigger.  Magic beans.  But not a 38 as I know a size 38 waist to be.  When wearing them they came up like a 36 and now I imagine them to shrink down to a 35.5.  Roll on training.

[Giles]

We measure that way because that is how all Japanese jeans companies measure them, it is the only accurate way of so doing.

[simonc]

There has been some confusion.  I wouldn't say its the only way of measuring them accurately nor would I say that is how we ie us outside Japan measure trousers ever, and when you post up jeans for sale at size 36 we all know what that means and that has nothing to do with measuring trousers sideways.  Anyhow let's see what comes out of the washing machine.

[Giles]

We do not know what a size 36 jean means.  What a jean is tagged at is often complete myth (I have seen a new tagged size Diesel measure actual 37).  Levi's are notorious for vanity tagging jeans.  We try to keep our tag size as close to actual as possible, bet we still get unexpected variance.

It is for these reasons that we post the measurements of every pair of trouser we sell and provide a link to what the Japanese (at least) think is the most accurate way to do it.  Haraki and Tom are pattern makers by trade, this is the way they do it

[simonc]

Okay an update, they have shrunk about half inch from what I would have called a 37 to a 36 spot on.  I am going to get them hemmed and will post pics.  I love the colour, dark buff, or light bronze, with a soft metallic sheen.  The cut is very good too, rear rise is just high enough as I like it; makes the legs look long and buries the muffins.  Finish as always is second to none.  Fabric is interesting; densely woven but quite lightweight, would make a great shirt too.  More anon.