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    • tigerpacT
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      Can somebody explain the Hawthorn brand to me?    White's makes them?  Do they cut corners to get the price down?  Found a model I loved but wanted to find out a bit more about the brand before pulling the trigger.

      Thanks!

      (Sorry if this is a repeat question, I tried to search it)

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      • Megatron1505M
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        Hathorn boots are made by guys training to work on Whites, basically apprentices. They are also made from slightly cheaper leathers, I believe some of the leathers are bought in from overseas. However, I have owned a couple of pairs of Hathorn boots, and the quality difference in terms of build is not noticeable at all.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • tigerpacT
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          Ask and ye shall receive - thanks so much for the answer Mega!

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          • urbanwoodsmanU
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            @Megatron1505:

            Hathorn boots are made by guys training to work on Whites, basically apprentices. They are also made from slightly cheaper leathers, I believe some of the leathers are bought in from overseas. However, I have owned a couple of pairs of Hathorn boots, and the quality difference in terms of build is not noticeable at all.

            I'm going to email White's and see if they have a generic answer to this.

            This is just my opinion.
            You can get custom boots from the Hathorn line that use the exact same leathers as the heavy duty White's line. Maybe they use lighter weight versions? I'm not exactly sure.
            Also, I think the Hathorn line are Machine welted whereas the Whites line are hand welted. The finished details are nicer on the Whites line as well. Usually, the Hathorn like has the close trim single welt stitching and the Whites line usually have a double welt stitch line on the standard trim.

            Overall, I'd say the Hathorn line is close to but still better quality than Red Wing, Wolverine, Danner, Chippewa, etc.

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            • tigerpacT
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              The model I'm looking at comes in at $315 or so, which seems more than a lot of the Red Wings, chippewa, etc.  Is the value there or should I look at some of the other brands mentioned?

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              • BlackheartB
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                Urb, I have a pair of Hathorns, they do have softer leather than the smoke jumpers. Machine welted, single stitch.
                I have the steel toe model, very nice boots. My Danner super rainforests are built a lot sturdier and are way
                stiffer, I wear my Hathorns a lot more because I like the higher heel.

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                • Megatron1505M
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                  I know that the Voyager leather used on many of the Hathorn boots is imported, still a really nice leather though. Somewhere on Sufu there is a picture tour of the Whites production facility, and it shows the trainees making the Hathorn boots.

                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  • urbanwoodsmanU
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                    I emailed Whites and asked the difference between the Whites line and the Hathorn line.

                    "The main difference between the White’s and Hathorn boots is the quality and construction. The White’s Boots are all hand-made and hand stitched, we use higher quality materials and they will have higher arch. The Hathorn boots are made with lower quality materials and they will have lower arch."

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                    • Megatron1505M
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                      Sounds reasonable enough  🙂

                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        Omega Man
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                        Thanks urb.  At least they are honest  ;D.

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                        • tigerpacT
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                          Hmmm not quite the marketing I was looking for.  100.. 200 seems good for lower quality machine made but over 300 for lower quality machine made just seems off to me…

                          Sigh the search continues....

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                            I've seen and tried on Red Wings and I now own Hathorn Northwests. IMO, Red Wings feel like disposable boots next to Hathorn boots.

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                            • ChrisC
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                              Yeah, machine construction can still be extremely well made, as long as the Quality Control is on top of things, and "lower quality" isn't low quality, especially when we're talking about White's.

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                              • tigerpacT
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                                I can totally see that.  I think Red Wings are crazy overpriced for what you get though- feel like my Thorogoods are as good as RWs I've tried on but were 1/2 the price, below $140.

                                Guess my cost/value perception could be off here, if I can't get something that great for over 300 I'm thinking to just wait and get the White's next year.  Better leather and hand-stitching seems worth the +200…

                                Recent watch purchase killed the expendable spending for some time so was trying to have my cake and eat it too but guess not!

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                                • BlackheartB
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                                  Tiger, check Wesco's factory seconds page, great boots on the cheap! They might have a blemish or were a
                                  cancelled order or a returned pair. I got three pairs this way and all were new. 😉

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                                  • tigerpacT
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                                    Thanks!  How often do they add new pairs on there?

                                    Took a quick look - nothing on point for what I'm looking for right now but will check back

                                    While I'm feeling lucky - any recommendations for something in the  5"-6" height, burgundy/red leather, mini-lug type sole family? 😃

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                                    • urbanwoodsmanU
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                                      Hathorn Traveler

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                                      • tigerpacT
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                                        That'd be the original subject of interest yes

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                                        • urbanwoodsmanU
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                                          @tigerpac:

                                          That'd be the original subject of interest yes

                                          Bakers has them for $298($310 + $12off code "twitter")

                                          Red Wings are $290-330 for a similar style. Why would you buy Red Wings?

                                          The Hathorn line is to Whites as Triple Works is to Iron Heart, IMHO.

                                          Also, if you're part of the Boot Comp you can get a pair of Whites Bounter Hunters for as low as $378 after the promo code.

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                                          • Megatron1505M
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                                            @urbanwoodsman:

                                            Bakers has them for $298($310 + $12off code "twitter")

                                            Red Wings are $290-330 for a similar style. Why would you buy Red Wings?

                                            This is all you need to think about.

                                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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