IH-666SB - Superblack Devil's Fit

[joesaintjohn]

Hell yes, Hajduk. Great idea.

[Seul]

Thanks for that, jerk. New need… 

[SimonQ.]

which denim?

[Giles]

Is that a real question?

[shego]

Do I wait for these or buy the overdyes…. ohhhh

[hajduk]

8. LORD G 8), coming soon…
   what does it means exactly?
   the next 2-3 weeks or more?

[Giles]

No, more like 2-3 months…....That is what the current wait is in production......

[hajduk]

GREAT!
all all black like the 9634?
i hope yes!

[hajduk]

it is about the outer seam,G.
on the 9301 it was made of red color.
and on the 9634 it is all black.

[Giles]

Patch will not be black.  W and arcs will be black.  Have not decided about outseam…..

[Max Power]

Sounds like I would trade in my 555 for these…

[SimonQ.]

@Giles:

Is that a real question?

yep 

18/21?

[MikeC]

Superblack is 21oz. Could have sworn it was 22oz….

[Max Power]

It was stated as 22 oz, but was marked down about 2 years ago (though I think SE still declares the 22 oz). The denim seems to be way stiffer, but not that heavier than the 21 ot IIRR.

[Giles]

The same 21oz denim that the IH-9634Z & IH-9461Z are made of.

[MikeC]

To prove, I'm not crazy regarding 22oz superblack (from the 9634Z thread)….
@Giles:

The 9634 is being phased out and replaced by the 9634Z.

The differences are the new ones will come with a Zipper and the fabric, whilst being the same intense black and weighing in at 22oz, is a lot softer - more like the feel of the 634S.

I still have most sizes in the old version (but not 36), and there are none left in Japan.

If you are between 36 and 38 I would go for 38 in the old fabric and 36 in the new, as the new will stretch a tad.

[Seul]

I remember G weighed them and came to the conclusion that they were closer to 21 than 22 oz and thus adjusted it, but I will always refer to the fabric as 22 oz. cause it's so stubborn… 

Maybe my fever's back though... 

[Max Power]

Edit: beat me to it. Feel free to delete…

@Max:

The 9634Z is displayed with a lanyard /key rein in your webstore. Does this come with the pants or is it just for the pictures? And are the 22 oz post-soak (hence the label says 21 oz in the pictures)?

@Giles:

Comes with the Lanyard.  Haraki described these to me as 22oz.  I have always called them 22oz but for some reason he labels them as 21.  Let's put it this way, size for size they weigh more than a pair of 634S
…G

@Giles:

Update.  I actually just re weighed a pair of 634S and a pair of 9634Z and whilst the 9634Z were heavier, not enough to warrant an ounce. so I'm going to update the website…G

[Giles]

Some people memory…..

[Max Power]

It's only 2 years plus. I'm still young.