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    • Z
      zwer
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      Did you find that supplements added to your growth? I lift 3 days a week and have done for 8 years or so. I've pretty much plateaued and I'm in the midst of deciding what I want to do. Do I want to be happy where I am or push for gains. I'm not overly strong (bench 225, squat maybe 245), and just can't seem to push above those numbers. And maybe it's hidden underneath a thin to middling layer of fat, but I don't really put on any noticeable size.

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      • GilesG
        Giles
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        @DougNg:

        Usually only a muffin at breakfast.

        My fave too….. 😃 😃 😃

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • DougNgD
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          I found that creatine was helpful with my overall energy levels, and protein added to size and some power, but what I found to be most helpful in changing a couple of things:

          1. more sleep
          2. more water
          3. changing out routines (if I'm stuck at barbell bench press, change to dumbells, or start with incline bench instead of flat bench) When I got back to what I was stuck on, I usually "unplugged" that "clog"
          4. reverse pyramids. Most of the time, I would start light, knock out 8-10 reps, then go heavier, with my heaviest around 2-4 reps. If I'm stuck at a plateau, I would start heavy, then go light. That REALLY makes a difference in getting out of a rut. NB: you MUST MUST MUST have an adequate warm up for this or else you're going to hurt yourself
          5. when lifting compound joint exercises, you're only going to lift as much as the weakest chain in the link. If you can figure out what that is, work on it and you will increase your max. ex: my right shoulder is weak from a couple injuries doing martial arts. Focusing a little more on my anterior deltoid helped with my bench

          I'm sure there are other tips for getting out of a rut, but that's all I could think of that worked for me

          Oh yeah, one more thing, taking a break from the gym once in awhile will "recharge the battery". When you go for months on end (4 months was usually my limit), you get to the point of diminishing returns. At that point, I would take a week off and do nothing except go for walks)

          The bad news is: there's no magic bullet for getting out of a rut. You're just going to have to find out what works for you through trial and error

          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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          • DougNgD
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            Oh yeah, one more thing that came to me: changing your schedule can help too

            I used to have a five day split: chest, back, shoulders, arms and legs. In that order

            When I was in grad school, I could only make it to the gym four days a week. I changed it to chest and tris, back and bis, shoulders and tris, legs and bis. I immediately saw growth when I did that. I didn't do all of my bicep or tricep exercises in a single day, I split them up amongst my two designated days for them, if that makes sense

            I did abs every other day

            PS-the weight that you're doing is perfectly respectable. I'm not even sure I was doing that much by the time I quit barbell/dumbell training

            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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            • Z
              zwer
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              Cheers, Doug. I can see a couple of things to change right away (ie, sleep and changing up my routine) and some things I'll have to think about (strengthening my little girl wrists and forearms).

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              • DougNgD
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                Sleep affects my overall physical well being tremendously, especially my ability to lift

                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                • DougNgD
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                  Making a friend at the gym that's considerably bigger and stronger than you makes a big difference too. When I was lifting my heaviest, I was trying to keep up with guys that a little guy like me didn't have any business trying to lift with. But the encouragement of my friends helped me tremendously. The biggest influence on me what my buddy Dwight. He was 6'3", 280lbs, and squatted seven plates (45lbs per plate for the uninitiated) on each side. It was a sight to behold, the bar would bend across his back and he needed three spotters

                  I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                  • Z
                    zwer
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                    I lift with a trainer once a week, but otherwise I prefer to lift on my own. I think of lifting like tai chi, where I'm trying to lift as much as i can, while performing each each motion perfectly. Probably why the only time I ever hurt myself was when I was doing pull downs and broke my brain because I kept holding my breath. Now that was a headache.

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                    • tigerpacT
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                      I'm completely the same with this - sleep changes everything.

                      @DougNg:

                      Sleep affects my overall physical well being tremendously, especially my ability to lift

                      If you want supplements I'd say stick with the basics.  Whey protein, creatine and glutamine are a good holy trinity.  I like Optimum Nutrition HydroBuilder, sorta has everything in it already, don't have to mess around too much.

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                      • S
                        Snowy
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                        How much are you guys sleeping out of interest? I get about 8hrs a night, but man could I go for more!

                        Woke up feeling a bit sore in spots I'm not usually sore this morning. Call that an early success for the KB's. Just back from a nice unwinding/opening  vigorous swim before a rest day tomorrow.

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                          CLJ
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                          Its not just the duration but the quality of sleep. The room must have absolutely no light whatsoever (a mask/cover for your eyes does not suffice) and minimal sound/noise level. Going in earlier so you dont wake to an alarm makes a big difference too. Obviously this is not always easy to do. Go for as good as you can get…

                          If you want to be strong, get Mark Rippetoe's "Starting Strength". It works.

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                          • S
                            Snowy
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                            week and a half in, and still getting my ass kicked hard by the kettle bell. Getting better at posture, and have got my first level up in terms of reps in. A+ for exercise, full-body(OMG!), small amount of time and @ home.

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                            • DougNgD
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                              Glad to hear it's working out for you, dude

                              The new Skogg System workouts I'm doing integrates a lot of plyometrics and body weight exercises along with the bells, it's an ass kicker

                              I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                              • xchenX
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                                Well my DDP yoga shipped today - going to start it up with my wife as soon as it gets here.

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                                • B
                                  bubbapest
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                                  ITS ME
                                  ITS ME

                                  ITS D D P

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                                  • DougNgD
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                                    Please let us know any updates. There were huge differences in my quality of life after I started it

                                    If you're new to home workouts via DVD, I recommend watching the workouts first without attempting anything and then starting it all over again and working alongside

                                    First lesson is Diamond Dozen, btw

                                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                    • xchenX
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                                      I've not done yoga before but my wife has. However I've lifted in the past and had good results.

                                      My weight is at about 166-167 but my body fat % is higher than I'd like. Like to get to 160 which is what I was at in the best shaped of my life. Will keep the thread posted with my results.

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                                      • natehateN
                                        natehate
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                                        shane/urb was looking for a gym in nyc i think i got one for you buddy

                                        don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                        • zhivagoZ
                                          zhivago
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                                          Just got caught up on this thread. Great post a few pages back Doug, and everybody keep up the great work. For kettlebells I really like http://www.dragondoor.com/shop-by-department/kettlebells/ and http://www.lifelineusa.com/products/kettlebells.html
                                          they do cost more, but lifelong investment, why not buy the best?
                                          Whatever you do, do it safe, and enjoy it!

                                          Zhivago

                                          MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                                          G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

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                                          • injunjackI
                                            injunjack
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                                            no, and again no  😃

                                            Get these. Or similar shaped.  Way more balanced and the shape of the handle is good for everybody. Also it helps that you always use same size kettlebell, whatever it weights.

                                            http://compactkettlebells.tcs.tagstudio.no/nettbutikk/3-russian-kettlebells

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