IH-461S - 21oz Selvedge Denim Boot Cut Jeans - Indigo

[injunjack]

and these are absofeckinlutely best without the S. soooo soft. Also my riding jawns quite often.  Bootcuts 4eveh

[davito]

thank you again gratefulmelon and ij for your inputs. I had already the chance to reserve a 461 without S sized up 1 so I will cop definitely within the next few days they felt really really good so my heart said: you neeeeeeed hahaha my closet explodes…;)

[Giles]

Restocked….

[Qinhan]

@davito:

I think these jeans are really underestimated, what do you think? They are on my radar since a long time as I like a little flare and spotted some pairs at VMC some weeks ago…I have so many jeans...who cares I have to get them you never have enough jeans...I'll keep you posted

I was introduced to IH through the 461S.  These jeans are still my favourite IH product and get more wear than anything else in my closet.  I've got a couple of pairs!  Highly recommended and a hugely underrated cut, in my opinion.

[davito]

Thx for your feedback, still on the hunt but with all my ih pants its a bit difficult to wear all of em. But they will come

[Qinhan]

One thing to be careful of: the low-rise of these jeans means that when you bend over there's serious danger of showing "plumbers crack". 

[Qinhan]

This thread (and the 461S) are seriously under-appreciated so here's a fit pic to get things going.

These are my go to jeans for work - super comfortable and much loved.  Hope this helps with your decision making Davito.

[Qinhan]

Trying (and failing) to capture the evo on these jeans.  I really need to take a couple of lessons from Jesse Lirola on how to operate an SLR.

<–----- BTW: fit pics of these jeans on the previous page!

[Sherdil]

Question on sizing - if size 34 in 634-XHS fits well, what size should one go for in the 416S ? Thanks.

[gratefulmelon]

I would go by the thigh measurements.  I'm a 36 in 634s but opted to size up to a 38 in the 461 due to the thighs being rather fitted.

[Qinhan]

I'm a 30 in the 634-XHS and a 31 in the 461S.

[Sherdil]

Thanks a lot for the feedback.  If you cuff these up, can you see the selvage like the other IH selvage jeans? Giles wrote something about this in the earlier pages of this forum but I didn't quite understand it.

Some of my internet research tells me that the selvage on these jeans is not seeing although they are labelled as selvage (I do see the selvage on the fly as shown in the pictures on IH's website). Please refer to:

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/ot-emens/item/mud99-461s/

and

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/bears/item/ironheart-461se/

Thanks again.

[xchen]

It does not show at the hem but has an over lock stitch like you'd see on non selvedge denim. However the actual denim is selvage but because of how the original pattern was designed the selvedge line has been cut.

[Giles]

There is no selvage at the cuff.

[Sherdil]

Does the IH-461S come with a free brass hook that comes with the IH-461 (the non-selvedge version)? Thanks.

[Giles]

Nope.  Only the non "s" versions come with the hook

[Sherdil]

Thanks Giles and everyone else who've responded. I actually saw the 461 on http://global.rakuten.com/en/ a few days ago with black leather back pockets. They looked really cool. Does anyone own those? I don't see them on Rakuten anymore. Are those going to be remade anytime and sold on IH's website?

[Giles]

I don't know if they will be remade, I'll ask Haraki this week,  I suspect not, but even if they are, I will not stock them as a standard item…They will have to be special order.

[Sherdil]

Giles - Thanks for asking . Even natural colored (undyed leather) leather back pockets would look lovely with the 21Oz indigo denim. Great contrast.

[daynym]

Seems like you're not really sure which cut you should try first. I think you can't go wrong with a pair of 634S…