Grooming and Hygiene
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Course I don't mind you calling me Paula, am delighted (and it makes a nice change from most of the names G calls me!)
Glad you're a fan of Modern Family, and I agree it is fucking hilarious.
??? OMG, just used the F word online for the first time in my life! I am such a wuss.
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@Apulator:
Thanks all for explanation of "due", it makes sense now realising that you pronounce "due" and "do" same way, whereas we pronounce "due" same as "dew". ("Two countries separated by a common language" - George Bernard Shaw)
That won't help the Americans. They pronounce dew, due, do and doo (as in shoobi-doo) all the same.
Things had to be simplified here because there were so many people from so many countries. They had to get on the smallest common denominator.
Till
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I know I didn't contribute much to this thread, but just to prove I was listening. I am now an official retailer of Dr Bronner cleaning stuff. I'm just working out what to get, any suggestions would be useful.
And I know you don't approve TFAR, so no response needed from you
…G
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KUDOS ! I now have a new dealer for my favorite soap **Thanks, Giles
We can do anything
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Great news!
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Fucking marvelous news!
This stuff works wonders (as detergent) and it the cleanest smelling stuff to ever entre my nose:
http://www.drbronner.com/DBMS/SAL.htmAll the bar soaps are great (normally I opt for peppermint or unscented) and I'm actually interested to try the shaving gels, so if that sounds like something you like to pick up and start to carry, G, you can expect me to be a loyal customer. Most major markets in the states have only just started carrying Doc Bronners, but I've yet to find that shaving gel.
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Went for the beatle manual washing technique tonight. in shower with bar of Dr Bronners and my 634S on…...my 9 year old son & wife think I'm nuts. The amount of indigo which came out was amazing....these bad boys are so well made.
634S now hanging up airdrying & a blast on the Indian tomorrow will finish that process. -
I'm empathising with your wife and son! Won't be long before we have to set up a support forum for family and loved ones…
Looking forward to the fit pics of you all enjoying tomorrow's blast...
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Absolutely. The world is waiting….
Have fun!
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I know I didn't contribute much to this thread, but just to prove I was listening. I am now an official retailer of Dr Bronner cleaning stuff. I'm just working out what to get, any suggestions would be useful.
And I know you don't approve TFAR, so no response needed from you
…G
Huh? Why wouldn't I approve? Did I ever say anything against Dr. Bronner? I own and use it myself. Good stuff. Not too expensive, natural, works well, smells good. What's not to like? Why shouldn't I approve? Please explain.
Till
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So I just tried shaving with the Citrus Bronner soap. Used a rather stiff super badger brush to whip up a lather in a ceramic bowl.
Result: Smooth shave with skin not too dried out (often a risk when shaving with normal soap).
BUT: The foam doesn't have good staying power and doesn't have a very good consistency. It is too bubbly. One must use very minimal amounts of water only. It works better to generate foam on the beard than in the bowl. Because it has no staying power it is hard to leave the foam on for a minute or two before shaving, as is recommended. Since it is so thin, the gliding properties are not optimal, either.
So it's not much of a luxurious shaving experience as you can get with dedicated products. You can really tell the difference here. But it gets the job done.
For traveling when you want just a single product for body, hair, shaving and laundry it's definitely great. I said before that I'm not hardcore enough to use it as toothpaste again after trying it out.
Till
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stewart - glad u liked the Beatle wash…results on evo , right ?
We can do anything
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Went for the beatle manual washing technique tonight. in shower with bar of Dr Bronners and my 634S on…...my 9 year old son & wife think I'm nuts. The amount of indigo which came out was amazing....these bad boys are so well made.
634S now hanging up airdrying & a blast on the Indian tomorrow will finish that process.You probably are!!!
I actually had my GF take pics when I shrunk my first 501 in the bath tub. I can't show those publicly, though.BTW, what is the supposed advantage of said method? It certainly doesn't get any cleaner like that. Agitation of the cloth is essential for good cleaning action and having the cloth being penetrated freely by water is as important for the actual wash as for the rinse. Both factors are mitigated by wearing the jeans.
So this method scores extra points for sheer nerdiness but for cleanliness I'd say an old-fashioned hand wash is better.
Of course, the final Indian blast makes up for any shortcomings previously incurred.
Till
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Tfar - u couldn´t be more off track. Hand washing jeans is the original way of doing it. We just don´t do it anymore. If u ever saw a pair of LVC´s from around the late 18th / early 19th century you would see how well that work for the old gold miners. Besides that - with a hand wash u have a chance to clean dirtier spots more directly, gently massage the soap in verses to just applying it like a film in the washer.
The actual wash in the washer is more or less just to rinse the jeans as good as possible. I´ve washed about half a dozen of jeans this way - and I was always surprised how big a difference it is to just throwing them into the washer dry and dirty. But than again - my jeans are always super dirty, cause I don´t wash every week.
We can do anything
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Beatle, that's exactly what I'm saying "hand wash". I didn't say machine. Read the post again.
Although, if you have a good machine, the machine will do probably an even better job. I agree that hand wash is best to get particular spots out, too.
What I doubt is that it is a good idea to do a wash while wearing them for the reasons I outlined. But I see that your method includes taking the jeans OFF and then washing them like you normally would and rinsing them freely. So that's good. Essentially there is then just a difference in time spent and in the question of rubbing versus kneading. I'd prefer kneading.
The way washing works is that the agitation breaks up dirt from the fibers. The water helps to quell up the fibers and float the dirt. The dirt will then bind to the surfactants of the soap. In the rinse the dirt is washed out together with the water and the fiber is cleaned. Thus flotation and good water flow is very important as is agitation. Remember those images of women kneading the laundry in the water. That's exactly the action you want.
http://www.brighthub.com/environment/green-living/articles/17624.aspxNow for some historical points:
Since Levi's claims on their site to have created the first blue jeans in 1873 (late 19th) it is unlikely that anyone will ever see a jeans (especially and LVC) worn by gold miners in the late 18th/ early 19th century. But that's just hairsplitting, of course.
http://www.levistrauss.com/Heritage/Even the gold rush, if you are referring to the one in California, started only in the mid-19th century. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Gold_Rush
The reason people would wash clothes on their body is sheer practicality stemming from necessity. They might not have a tub where to wash them. It might be their only clothes and it might not be possible to take them off for washing. So they wash them in the river on their body. Yes, it will work. Is it the best method in terms of cleaning effect? Certainly not. Definitely cool but also definitely a bit ineffective and certainly not recommended in terms of hygiene, especially if you wash the jeans rarely. Same reason why the recommend to wear fresh underwear daily, especially for women.
I hope that puts me back on track squarely. Ahem, railroad building also only really took off in the mid-19th century. Partially inspired by the gold rush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Transcontinental_RailroadTill
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@tfar:
Huh? Why wouldn't I approve? Did I ever say anything against Dr. Bronner? I own and use it myself. Good stuff. Not too expensive, natural, works well, smells good. What's not to like? Why shouldn't I approve?
Sorry Till, you wrote in post earlier that Dr Bronners was basically just Castille soap. I assumed (incorrectly) that you had a better/cheaper source of Castille soap..G
