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    • deadendproD
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      I thought i would share this with everyone here who could be, in some way, considered new to the Denim world…well, at least our denim world. They say that you cant know where you are going until you know where you have been, and this is a perfect read for everyone...

      here goes..
      it's been a long few days, so i'm basically going to spit out the facts:

      -Levi's is suing your two favorite denim stores in America, along with Studio D'Artisan, Iron Heart, Toyo/Sugarcane, Oni (BS United), and Samurai.

      -Everybody is being sued for trademark infringment

      -All sales of the above mentioned brands are to be stopped by Friday, January 19, 2007 WORLDWIDE

      -US and Japanese Customs are in on this, no jeans made by the above brands are to be sent out of Japan starting two days ago (January 15) to stores OR consumers. you've been warned, don't attempt to order your jeans via a bidding service or have a friend send them to you

      -The offending points are as follows: 1. There are to be NO tabs attatched between two pieces of fabric on the rear pockets, 2. The cards hanging out of the back pocket, stapled to the pocket, must not look anything like vintage/modern Levi's Info Cards, 3. Arcuates on the rear pockets must not resemble the Levi's arcuate in ANY way shape or form, 4. Rear leather patch cannot contain an image of two moving objects (horses, motorcylcles, pigs, etc..) pulling apart a pair of jeans

      -All product with any of the above mentioned accents must be pulled from the shelves of every store in the world by Friday, January 19

      -I've spoken to most of the manufacturers named in the lawsuit in Japan already and they are quickly working on producing jeans with either NO back pocket stitching or stitching that is greatly different than the Levi's Arcuate. We are looking at a four week period where there will be very low stock of denim from these companies

      -There are four more companies they're going after, i cannot name those at this time.

      -This is one of the most comprehensive and largest lawsuits Levi's has filed against Japanese denim manufacturers

      a few quick updates:
      -this was a court order, NOT ceast and desist.
      -Levi's is winning this, there's no doubt about it
      -This lawsuit has been many months in the works, maybe even before any of the aformentioned stores opened

      Another update:
      ok.. My head is going to fucking blow..

      here's a few things..
      -cuts will NOT have to change, this has nothing to do with cuts, read my original post if you think that the cuts will have to be altered

      -Any further questions regarding what can and what can NOT sold MUST be directed to Self Edge's main phone number which is 415-558-0658

      -when calling Self Edge please ask if the pair you want is in stock and available for shipping, at that point we'll know if we can ship them to you. there are certain items which have been removed from our stock for good, and there are certain items that are questionable and we're waiting to hear from the lawyers and are still selling via phone orders.

      -please do not fight over this, the entire situation makes us all at Self Edge very uneasy, and the last thing we need is this entire community worldwide to be bickering over boycotts, petitions, anti-levi's t-shirts, etc.. i will say this again, levi's is in the right. the lawyers are seeing that we're cooperating and they're working with us to resolve this issue. keep in mind that this might all take quite some time, and there might be a denim shortage from a few labels for a four week long period, and maybe longer if they decide to fight it in Japan.

      -stick with us, i've been following this industry for many years and i can truly say that this is merely another chapter in the progess of denim design and manufacturing. it's going to be nice to see what the japanese companies are coming up with next.

      -many of the companies named in the lawsuit have already sent me mock-up drawings of ideas of labels, stitchings, etc.. i have mixed feelings, but i guarantee what ever they come up with will be classic, timeless, and fit the persona of the designer. they take our opinions to heart, so you can know that we're not going to be behind any terrible outlandish stitchings. which by the way, nobody has yet to submit anything that's made me want to gag… you should have no worries...

      another update:

      Iron Heart is quickly working on releasing their new line without the arcuates, a different leather tag, and no red tab. We're looking at a February 20th release of their current line to come out without the offending accents. The Self Edge x Iron Heart jeans are still set for a first week of March release.

      Imperial will no longer have the horses on their tags, new tag will be unleashed sometime in February.

      Flat Head, i have no idea, i have a phone meeting with them in ten minutes that will probably last through the night. We're going to try and figure out exactly what needs to happen to their line and how quickly it can be done.

      Another update:
      we're still working with Iron Heart on their stitching and tag, Imperial on their tag, and Flat Head on their stitching..

      in the meanwhile, we can't release any photos of mock ups. but the final stitchings and tags will be decided on by Monday for all three of the above mentioned companies.

      I am in a daze right now, especially after the thought that i'm literally helping all these companies redesign their accents for their entire lines and that we're going back and forth with ideas and drawings and concepts. in the end though, it's their vision that needs to come through, and i'm positive it will.
      these are people that live and breath denim, i can only wish to one day be nearly as immersed in the world of denim as they are.

      but for now, being sued by Levi's is enough for me.

      Denim Por Vida,
      Kiya

      Currently Wearing:
      SExSx3s 27-01
      15.4oz 3sixteen Type 3
      25oz Samurai Type 1

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      • deadendproD
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        this isnt from this year man… that's 2007...

        Currently Wearing:
        SExSx3s 27-01
        15.4oz 3sixteen Type 3
        25oz Samurai Type 1

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        • deadendproD
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          I think someone read through my post a little too fast and didn't see the dates….. Hehehe, you 90's babies and your nickelodeon, non-music MTV and Smash Mouth. Lol. Just playing, but yeah simon, there is a reason I quoted it and wrote something prior to the quote. Lol, slowbro. (Yeah, I just called you a pokemon.)

          Currently Wearing:
          SExSx3s 27-01
          15.4oz 3sixteen Type 3
          25oz Samurai Type 1

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          • GilesG
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            Well, I know I said in the Android post I wanted to avoid i-ubiquity.

            I may have to eat my words when it comes to the PC.  My 6 week old Dell had a severe issue Thursday.  I spent 6 hours on the phone to India talking to Microsoft and Dell techies, net result a full software rebuild required.

            I had a really shitty Friday.

            Anyway, next time round it's going to ba a Mac…G

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              Giles, that sucks. My sympathies. That kind of stuff gets on my nerves very badly, too. I feel for you, man. I hope you get it all straightened out and get back to work soon.

              Till

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              • SeulS
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                Hidden arcs is where it's at. Also: I dislike IH and FH's backstitching. I have the SE collabs because they have the half arcs.

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                  Seul, what do you mean by "backstitching"? You mean the arcs on the pocket? I think the half arcs are cool and the half/half arcs in different thread colors are also cool. I even like the painted evisu arcs. That's a creative solution.

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                  • BeatleB
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                    One of these days the Roy boots will arrive at Context. After 4 months of waiting I am officially getting excited.

                    We can do anything

                    http://bybeatle.com

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                      As am I. Thought they already should be here.  Guess they won´t get too much wearing right now if spring finally arrives here in Sweden anytime. Will be great to have for the fall anyhow. And something tells me the Roy boot will be a perfect companionship to all of my IH.

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                      • BeatleB
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                        Sam said they´re still on schedule..but Alden won´t commit to a def. day…but March is confirmed. With the weather being crazy like it is i might still be able to wear them in May...

                        We can do anything

                        http://bybeatle.com

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                        • GilesG
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                          Thanks Simon.  Really useful…G

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            G‚ once you turn mac‚ you never turn back!
                            I phone and apple mac = no brainer….trust me!

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                              So sorry G! I will be purchasing the new MacBook sometime this week. I decided against the MacBook Pro after discussing the differences with my friend who works for Mac. Very excited to finally upgrade my life!

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                                bought a MacBook Slow- i mean Pro- recently, would never recommend one.

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                                • STANS
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                                  Got this IH leather patch from Giles. I keep this for awhile.  Thought of replacement for the spoil IH patch, but could not trust the local tailor with the job  so  i use as something useful.
                                  This is it the IH freezer magnet.

                                  EVERYDAY DENIM

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                                    I think a leather patch would be much cooler on a Macbook than the not uncool IH stickers. Do you hear me, Lando? 😉

                                    Fantastic idea with the fridge magnet. How about a mouse pad with the IH stamp on it for all the IH aficionados? Personally I use a trackball or trackpad but most people still use a mouse.

                                    Till

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                                      @tfar:

                                      I think a leather patch would be much cooler on a Macbook than the not uncool IH stickers. Do you hear me, Lando? 😉

                                      Till

                                      DONE! Providing Giles will be nice enough to obtain one for me? 😉 Just put it in the pile. 😉

                                      @simon626:

                                      Thank you Lando for the sweeet ass stickers (:

                                      This is where i decided to stick my IH sticker. IH cellphone! hahaha

                                      Looks good and my pleasure.  😛

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                                      • hecticH
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                                        Just saw Shutter Island - gets a reco from me, good solid work from Scorcese.

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                                          Cool, give us a go/no go upon your return.

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                                          • DchillD
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                                            Visually it was great, music was below average, and a couple of the scenes were pretty cheesy but overall it was good….the ending sucked though imo.

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