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    • LuciferL
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      I actually like the Diaz brothers, they seem like genuinely good guys with anxiety issues that aren't cut out for the limelight, but are class acts when they aren't in focus. They have both had their hickups, but I like them.

      Seize the day and don't you cry.

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      • natehateN
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        cant stand nate diaz
        dont mind nick
        but both are great fighters
        nates really improved in the last year or so
        still a knob thou

        don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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        • HemiH
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          I don't care who Silva fights now, just glad he beat Sonnen… again!  Man, that guy talked up a storm but to get submitted then a TKO... that's not even close!  His style is horrible and his striking on the ground must be terrible?

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          • LuciferL
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            @Hemi:

            I don't care who Silva fights now, just glad he beat Sonnen… again!  Man, that guy talked up a storm but to get submitted then a TKO... that's not even close!  His style is horrible and his striking on the ground must be terrible?

            His style makes him the second best in the world in that weight class.. 😉

            But his ground and pound could need some practice, it is really weird that someone that is as strong as Sonnen can have such weak GnP.

            Seize the day and don't you cry.

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            • bagley920B
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              As long as he doesn't try to throw spinning back fists he will be fine haha

              If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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              • HemiH
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                There is no such thing as second best in the UFC! You're either the champ or you're not… the rest is irrelevant.  Steve De Silva (BJ Penn's original BBJ Coach) use to tell me this and I think most fighters would agree.

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                • LuciferL
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                  @Hemi:

                  There is no such thing as second best in the UFC! You're either the champ or you're not… the rest is irrelevant.  Steve De Silva (BJ Penn's original BBJ Coach) use to tell me this and I think most fighters would agree.

                  Well, I get what they and you are trying to say, but there are rankings, and I think most people would agree that if not second best, Sonnen is top 2-3 as the division stands today. Neither Boetsch or Lombard impressed in their last fight, and who else is there? Bisping? Already beaten by Sonnen, not many other contenders that can match Sonnen (nor Silva, of course).

                  Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                  • HemiH
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                    Don't get me wrong Sonnen has done well, but the champion is No.1 and after that you're either the challenger, up & coming or on the way out… Sonnen is no longer in the first two categories regardless of where you rank him.  I reckon Silva will be beaten by time and probably just retire, what do you think?

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                    • LuciferL
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                      @Hemi:

                      Don't get me wrong Sonnen has done well, but the champion is No.1 and after that you're either the challenger, up & coming or on the way out… Sonnen is no longer in the first two categories regardless of where you rank him.  I reckon Silva will be beaten by time and probably retire undefeated, what do you think?

                      Not very easy to say, I can't really see anyone taking him on realistically at this point. There is talk about a mathcup with both Diaz and GSP at a catchweight, and I can see both those fights go either way, especially GSP which stylistically is similar to Sonnen, but also has amazing GnP. Not sure if Diaz would fare as well though, he is a great striker, but relies on volume, rather than solid single hits, and may face some very harsh counter punching. So of those two matchup, I think the only realistic one is GSP.

                      I have heard some rumors about Alexander Gustavson dropping down a weight class and giving it a go, but I think he would run out of time with fighting other contenders before Silva retires..

                      Other than that.. Hm, Gegard Mousasi would be a candidate when he is done doing boxing in the olympics, he is amaizing on his feet with pin point accuracy and really heavy hands and he fights well off his back, but I suspect Silvas bjj might prove to bee a few notches too good if Silva takes him down.

                      Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                      • natehateN
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                        anyone here do any martial arts training?

                        don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                        • HemiH
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                          BJJ

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                          • LuciferL
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                            Submission and some thai here.

                            Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                            • natehateN
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                              nice
                              ive done a couple classes and a seminar on bjj
                              but i train muay thai
                              just passed my test from beginner to advanced class this week

                              don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                              • bagley920B
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                                Doesn't seem to be much in my area. Anyone have a website or database to look them up?

                                If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                • natehateN
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                                  just google what your looking for in your area
                                  you might have to drive a bit
                                  i drive about 25 minutes to my thai club

                                  don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                  • bagley920B
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                                    yeah, that's what I was afraid of

                                    If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                    • bagley920B
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                                      Watching the UFC 150 prelims right now, who you guys got in the main fights?

                                      I'm going with Benson and the Cowboy

                                      If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                      • natehateN
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                                        i had cowboy and edgar

                                        don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                        • natehateN
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                                          Hendo or jones? I want hendo to win it so bad I just doubt he will

                                          don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                          • bagley920B
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                                            If I was betting I'd put my money on Jones but he's become quite the balloon head so my heart says Hendo

                                            If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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