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    bagley920
    Joined: 10 Oct 2011

    I can't stand Diaz or his brother. There is a big difference between hyping the fight and just simply being a thug

    If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

    last edited by 29 Jul 2012, 15:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Flash
      Joined: 19 Oct 2010

      Totally agree
      Was in my element watching the Nate Diaz fight against Rory McDonald , Rory tossed him around like a rag doll

      Rory is a beast , can't wait for the bj penn fight , I was really surprised BJ took that fight because the only one I see benefiting is Rory

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      last edited by 29 Jul 2012, 15:35 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        bagley920
        Joined: 10 Oct 2011

        Sadly, the BJ Penn of late is going to get destroyed. I hope the younger version shows up. Baby J is a perfect example of hype without thugness

        If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

        last edited by 29 Jul 2012, 15:43 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          Flash
          Joined: 19 Oct 2010

          Yea Bj back in the day was unreal

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          last edited by 29 Jul 2012, 15:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            bagley920
            Joined: 10 Oct 2011

            The only thing unreal about him now is his balance. Other than that, he's been taking some beatings

            If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

            last edited by 29 Jul 2012, 16:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              Lucifer
              Joined: 31 Aug 2011

              I actually like the Diaz brothers, they seem like genuinely good guys with anxiety issues that aren't cut out for the limelight, but are class acts when they aren't in focus. They have both had their hickups, but I like them.

              Seize the day and don't you cry.

              last edited by 29 Jul 2012, 21:29 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                natehate
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 18 Jun 2012

                cant stand nate diaz
                dont mind nick
                but both are great fighters
                nates really improved in the last year or so
                still a knob thou

                don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

                last edited by 30 Jul 2012, 01:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  Hemi
                  Joined: 8 Aug 2010

                  I don't care who Silva fights now, just glad he beat Sonnen… again!  Man, that guy talked up a storm but to get submitted then a TKO... that's not even close!  His style is horrible and his striking on the ground must be terrible?

                  last edited by 30 Jul 2012, 12:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Lucifer
                    Joined: 31 Aug 2011

                    @Hemi:

                    I don't care who Silva fights now, just glad he beat Sonnen… again!  Man, that guy talked up a storm but to get submitted then a TKO... that's not even close!  His style is horrible and his striking on the ground must be terrible?

                    His style makes him the second best in the world in that weight class.. 😉

                    But his ground and pound could need some practice, it is really weird that someone that is as strong as Sonnen can have such weak GnP.

                    Seize the day and don't you cry.

                    last edited by 30 Jul 2012, 13:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      bagley920
                      Joined: 10 Oct 2011

                      As long as he doesn't try to throw spinning back fists he will be fine haha

                      If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

                      last edited by 30 Jul 2012, 13:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Hemi
                        Joined: 8 Aug 2010

                        There is no such thing as second best in the UFC! You're either the champ or you're not… the rest is irrelevant.  Steve De Silva (BJ Penn's original BBJ Coach) use to tell me this and I think most fighters would agree.

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                          Lucifer
                          Joined: 31 Aug 2011

                          @Hemi:

                          There is no such thing as second best in the UFC! You're either the champ or you're not… the rest is irrelevant.  Steve De Silva (BJ Penn's original BBJ Coach) use to tell me this and I think most fighters would agree.

                          Well, I get what they and you are trying to say, but there are rankings, and I think most people would agree that if not second best, Sonnen is top 2-3 as the division stands today. Neither Boetsch or Lombard impressed in their last fight, and who else is there? Bisping? Already beaten by Sonnen, not many other contenders that can match Sonnen (nor Silva, of course).

                          Seize the day and don't you cry.

                          last edited by 31 Jul 2012, 05:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            Hemi
                            Joined: 8 Aug 2010

                            Don't get me wrong Sonnen has done well, but the champion is No.1 and after that you're either the challenger, up & coming or on the way out… Sonnen is no longer in the first two categories regardless of where you rank him.  I reckon Silva will be beaten by time and probably just retire, what do you think?

                            last edited by 31 Jul 2012, 06:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Lucifer
                              Joined: 31 Aug 2011

                              @Hemi:

                              Don't get me wrong Sonnen has done well, but the champion is No.1 and after that you're either the challenger, up & coming or on the way out… Sonnen is no longer in the first two categories regardless of where you rank him.  I reckon Silva will be beaten by time and probably retire undefeated, what do you think?

                              Not very easy to say, I can't really see anyone taking him on realistically at this point. There is talk about a mathcup with both Diaz and GSP at a catchweight, and I can see both those fights go either way, especially GSP which stylistically is similar to Sonnen, but also has amazing GnP. Not sure if Diaz would fare as well though, he is a great striker, but relies on volume, rather than solid single hits, and may face some very harsh counter punching. So of those two matchup, I think the only realistic one is GSP.

                              I have heard some rumors about Alexander Gustavson dropping down a weight class and giving it a go, but I think he would run out of time with fighting other contenders before Silva retires..

                              Other than that.. Hm, Gegard Mousasi would be a candidate when he is done doing boxing in the olympics, he is amaizing on his feet with pin point accuracy and really heavy hands and he fights well off his back, but I suspect Silvas bjj might prove to bee a few notches too good if Silva takes him down.

                              Seize the day and don't you cry.

                              last edited by 31 Jul 2012, 06:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                natehate
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 18 Jun 2012

                                anyone here do any martial arts training?

                                don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

                                last edited by 4 Aug 2012, 04:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Hemi
                                  Joined: 8 Aug 2010

                                  BJJ

                                  last edited by 4 Aug 2012, 07:30 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Lucifer
                                    Joined: 31 Aug 2011

                                    Submission and some thai here.

                                    Seize the day and don't you cry.

                                    last edited by 4 Aug 2012, 12:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      natehate
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 18 Jun 2012

                                      nice
                                      ive done a couple classes and a seminar on bjj
                                      but i train muay thai
                                      just passed my test from beginner to advanced class this week

                                      don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

                                      last edited by 4 Aug 2012, 12:53 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        bagley920
                                        Joined: 10 Oct 2011

                                        Doesn't seem to be much in my area. Anyone have a website or database to look them up?

                                        If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

                                        last edited by 4 Aug 2012, 13:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          natehate
                                          啓蒙家
                                          Joined: 18 Jun 2012

                                          just google what your looking for in your area
                                          you might have to drive a bit
                                          i drive about 25 minutes to my thai club

                                          don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

                                          last edited by 4 Aug 2012, 13:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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