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    • natehateN
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      nick diaz is calling out silva, he wants to move to 185
      he'll get destroyed

      don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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        First round

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        • bagley920B
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          I can't stand Diaz or his brother. There is a big difference between hyping the fight and just simply being a thug

          If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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          • FlashF
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            Totally agree
            Was in my element watching the Nate Diaz fight against Rory McDonald , Rory tossed him around like a rag doll

            Rory is a beast , can't wait for the bj penn fight , I was really surprised BJ took that fight because the only one I see benefiting is Rory

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            • bagley920B
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              Sadly, the BJ Penn of late is going to get destroyed. I hope the younger version shows up. Baby J is a perfect example of hype without thugness

              If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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              • FlashF
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                Yea Bj back in the day was unreal

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                • bagley920B
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                  The only thing unreal about him now is his balance. Other than that, he's been taking some beatings

                  If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                  • LuciferL
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                    I actually like the Diaz brothers, they seem like genuinely good guys with anxiety issues that aren't cut out for the limelight, but are class acts when they aren't in focus. They have both had their hickups, but I like them.

                    Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                    • natehateN
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                      cant stand nate diaz
                      dont mind nick
                      but both are great fighters
                      nates really improved in the last year or so
                      still a knob thou

                      don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                      • HemiH
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                        I don't care who Silva fights now, just glad he beat Sonnen… again!  Man, that guy talked up a storm but to get submitted then a TKO... that's not even close!  His style is horrible and his striking on the ground must be terrible?

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                        • LuciferL
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                          @Hemi:

                          I don't care who Silva fights now, just glad he beat Sonnen… again!  Man, that guy talked up a storm but to get submitted then a TKO... that's not even close!  His style is horrible and his striking on the ground must be terrible?

                          His style makes him the second best in the world in that weight class.. 😉

                          But his ground and pound could need some practice, it is really weird that someone that is as strong as Sonnen can have such weak GnP.

                          Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                          • bagley920B
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                            As long as he doesn't try to throw spinning back fists he will be fine haha

                            If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                            • HemiH
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                              There is no such thing as second best in the UFC! You're either the champ or you're not… the rest is irrelevant.  Steve De Silva (BJ Penn's original BBJ Coach) use to tell me this and I think most fighters would agree.

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                              • LuciferL
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                                @Hemi:

                                There is no such thing as second best in the UFC! You're either the champ or you're not… the rest is irrelevant.  Steve De Silva (BJ Penn's original BBJ Coach) use to tell me this and I think most fighters would agree.

                                Well, I get what they and you are trying to say, but there are rankings, and I think most people would agree that if not second best, Sonnen is top 2-3 as the division stands today. Neither Boetsch or Lombard impressed in their last fight, and who else is there? Bisping? Already beaten by Sonnen, not many other contenders that can match Sonnen (nor Silva, of course).

                                Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                                • HemiH
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                                  Don't get me wrong Sonnen has done well, but the champion is No.1 and after that you're either the challenger, up & coming or on the way out… Sonnen is no longer in the first two categories regardless of where you rank him.  I reckon Silva will be beaten by time and probably just retire, what do you think?

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                                  • LuciferL
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                                    @Hemi:

                                    Don't get me wrong Sonnen has done well, but the champion is No.1 and after that you're either the challenger, up & coming or on the way out… Sonnen is no longer in the first two categories regardless of where you rank him.  I reckon Silva will be beaten by time and probably retire undefeated, what do you think?

                                    Not very easy to say, I can't really see anyone taking him on realistically at this point. There is talk about a mathcup with both Diaz and GSP at a catchweight, and I can see both those fights go either way, especially GSP which stylistically is similar to Sonnen, but also has amazing GnP. Not sure if Diaz would fare as well though, he is a great striker, but relies on volume, rather than solid single hits, and may face some very harsh counter punching. So of those two matchup, I think the only realistic one is GSP.

                                    I have heard some rumors about Alexander Gustavson dropping down a weight class and giving it a go, but I think he would run out of time with fighting other contenders before Silva retires..

                                    Other than that.. Hm, Gegard Mousasi would be a candidate when he is done doing boxing in the olympics, he is amaizing on his feet with pin point accuracy and really heavy hands and he fights well off his back, but I suspect Silvas bjj might prove to bee a few notches too good if Silva takes him down.

                                    Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                                    • natehateN
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                                      anyone here do any martial arts training?

                                      don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                      • HemiH
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                                        BJJ

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                                        • LuciferL
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                                          Submission and some thai here.

                                          Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                                          • natehateN
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                                            nice
                                            ive done a couple classes and a seminar on bjj
                                            but i train muay thai
                                            just passed my test from beginner to advanced class this week

                                            don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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