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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

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    • DougNgD
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      @tfar:

      However, the breakage point will not be the buckle itself but where it's sewn on the fabric (IH or not). Unless you have a glass buckle the sewing will rip out before the buckle breaks.

      I did some checking on this, and was wondering where you got this information?

      As I was told, according to mil spec standards, the buckle should break before the stitching so that someone can't be choked out/dragged by their pack

      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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        Common sense and the fact that I've sewn and worked with textiles quite a bit. I also doubt that IH duffels are built in accordance with American Mil specs, or are they?

        Of course, it will be possible to engineer such a combo where the buckle breaks before the stitching, but is this the case here?

        It would be relatively easy to test this but it's a very theoretical point. Let's just hope we are never in a situation where we get dragged behind a train due to our bags.

        Till

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        • DougNgD
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          Honestly, I really hope the buckle snaps before the stitching. I've lived in NY all my life, and using the train and bus is a way of life…I've seen more than a handful of people dragged when a door closes on a bag. Someone was killed on the subway not that long ago by this method.

          I have a pretty wide array of tactical nylon over here from TADGear and Maxpedition, the IH bags are built just as tough. I can take pics of the attachment points if you want, but I'll just say for now that the attachment points are bartacked with 2" bartacks...twice...

          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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            I know what you mean, Doug. But bartacks and box stitch can only go so far. You could arc weld a steel plate. If the material around it gives in right at the edge of the stitching what you get is a hole in the material in the shape of the attachment point. So one would have to test the buckle for breakage point, then the material for tear resistance, then the stitching and then the combo.

            My bet is that the textile material will give out before even the plastic buckle unless the plastic buckle is engineered to have a certain breakage point below that of the stitching. On military gear that is certainly possible and makes sense. On IH gear, I just doubt it.

            Till

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              great bag, really stiff. I got a size M and I was glad I could
              take it with me to the plane (as hand luggage) when I was travelling!

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                DrPat
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                Giles, are the duffel bags a limited run (like the shirts) or will they always be around (like the jeans).  I would like to get one, but probably not right now.

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                • GilesG
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                  @DrPat:

                  Giles, are the duffel bags a limited run (like the shirts) or will they always be around (like the jeans).  I would like to get one, but probably not right now.

                  They come and go.  I have a few here and there are a few in Japan.  We repeat the run, albeit infrequently, so no desperation on the commit front, if you don't mind a possible wait

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • DougNgD
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                    I love mine. It's my luggage when I go down to Maryland once or twice a month

                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                    • BeatleB
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                      Dear Giles..what is the status on a size M ? I hope u don´t mind checking ur storage room - website tells me M is available ,

                      We can do anything

                      http://bybeatle.com

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                        I got the last one… I believe.

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                        • BeatleB
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                          I know..but from what I can tell they are available again in Japan - so it´s always worth asking. Don´t want to travel light to Inazuma

                          http://item.rakuten.co.jp/rebirth/941835

                          We can do anything

                          http://bybeatle.com

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                            @Beatle:

                            I know..but from what I can tell they are available again in Japan - so it´s always worth asking. Don´t want to travel light to Inazuma

                            http://item.rakuten.co.jp/rebirth/941835

                            Alright.

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                            • BeatleB
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                              We can do anything

                              http://bybeatle.com

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                              • GilesG
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                                They are actually being shipped to me on 13th…G

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • BeatleB
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                                  see- always good to ask…u know what to do, Giles - m, put it on the pile*

                                  We can do anything

                                  http://bybeatle.com

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    You have your own room…..G

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • BeatleB
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                                      We shall call it The Beatle locker ;room No.22b

                                      We can do anything

                                      http://bybeatle.com

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        The rate you're going it will need to be capable of expansion pretty quickly….G

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          Beatle, but you SHOULD pack light to Inazuma ! Why carry a lot of shit ? I don't get it. When I travel, I pack insanely light. I never feel as if I shoulda brought more. Never, ever. The heaviest crap I take are my professional camera equipment (backpack full of DSLR, external flashes, lenses) and laptop.

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                                            PS. Can I come with you to Inazuma Beats ? I'll hide in your duffel bag. (Just kidding !).

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