Random Announcements
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I can wholeheartedly (sorry) recommend Hole Hearted, as well as the other beers that Oakleaf produce, having sampled a few.
Hole Hearted is the pick of the bunch though.
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Hey Giles, any chance we could get Haraki to take a picture of all those magazines on that table? I see Dice but am wondering what the rest are?!?! GRACIAS
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It is a gorgeous day in the bay area! We don't get these too often this time of the year. Kinda waiting on my showers to come back. But while the sun came out to play, I'll kick it!
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^Cantonese or Mandarin?
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@simon626:
BEATLE THOSE PICTURES ARE GORGEOUS!!!!
Something that really surprises me: A lot of the members on IH forum aren't from the US, but everyone here speaks (and writes) English quite well! It's kinda embarassing how most Americans ONLY know how to speak English….totally ignorant of other languages. I'm pretty fortunate to know how to speak Chinese as well, (some of my Chinese friends can't speak it!) as well as being coerced into learning French for 4 years.Simon, I'm one of those American ignoramuses you talk about and I'm ashamed of it. I can't speak my native language "Tamil" either…though I can understand it quite well. Not knowing a foreign language is something I regret. Here's another thing I regret : Not being able to play a musical instrument. I'm basically just an average fuck who got kinda lucky in life.
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@simon626:
Shubz, it's never too late to learn how to play an instrument!
OR learn a new language!
Take a course at your local community college. Classes cost less than a pair of jeans usually and it's a great way to keep on expanding your mind.
And shubz, you probably know more about computer software than most people. Don't say you're just an average person! Everyone is unique, just like everyone else! (:
Thanks for your encouragement Simon. You're right…it's never too late. I just need to get off my butt and sign up for a class at Laney College (the local community college). They teach plenty of foreign languages to intermediate levels (including Chinese !!).
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@simon626:
Shubz, it's never too late to learn how to play an instrument!
OR learn a new language!
Take a course at your local community college. Classes cost less than a pair of jeans usually and it's a great way to keep on expanding your mind.
And shubz, you probably know more about computer software than most people. Don't say you're just an average person! Everyone is unique, just like everyone else! (:
i always like seeing this being said, just like the 'everyone is special' and 'everyone is a winner' type saying. because if everyone is, no one is. hahaha, i love it.
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i always like seeing this being said, just like the 'everyone is special' and 'everyone is a winner' type saying. because if everyone is, no one is. hahaha, i love it.
I concur. This mindset is the reason for the bizarre sense of entitlement of the 18-25 year olds out there today. I can sing a song about that concerning my students. Not saying that is the case with you, Simon, but it's always good to consider. The learning process will be less painful.
So much for Random Wisdom!
Till
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@simon626:
haha sometimes i ask myself if i live an ordinary life, or if there are other people out there doing the same things i do.
My conclusion- probably a lot of people do the same things i do, but at least i'm fortunate (or maybe unfortunate) enough to never ever run into them. It'd be boring to hang out with someone exactly like you. It'd be like hanging out with yourself…..which some people enjoy haha
Not exactly what I meant but never mind. You'll figure it out.
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^all in due time T-man, all in due time
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Simon, OK, this is really corny but I believe in Buddhist-like teachings. Buddha says that what you are is how others see you. When I offend anyone I am quick to apologize – not really because I want to make peace but rather, because that other person must be justified in being offended. Get it ? dead, I don't mind anything about what you said or that you mentioned me and lando. I've always maintained that I'm new to forums but I don't think forum etiquette is that complicated actually. Just "try" and stick to point, be conscious of it anyway -- and be cool.
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@simon626:
I actually sit and think before i click "Post" every time i write something, and wonder if anyone will get mad or if i'm doing the "correct" thing. Sometimes i feel like i'm just voicing my opinion, which i thought is what i'm supposed to do. Sometimes i get the impression that i'm not supposed to voice my opinion unless it's great advice.
Simon, this is natural reaction to any new social situation. I remember the very first time I was online in a public forum (this was the early nineties so it was a v.basic text only bulletin board). It was at my friends work and he suggested I have a chat with the people he normally chatted to online. So I tapped a tentative Hello and asked what everyone was doing - the first response was "Chatting on here you nob" - you can imagine that I was little bit upset.
But its all about context and familiarity (which I had none of), in the early days of online interaction everyone was trying to formulate a social grammar (a common set of rules) on how to navigate this new type of social space (I guess they had to do it for the telephone as well, IIR they invented the word "hello" so that people had something to say when they started a telephone call).
Most of us on here have had a long time to learn this new grammar and therefore we have thick skins (in the same way that you had to learn how to conduct yourself when you first went to high school, for example).
The main thing to remember is that this experience is heavily mediated (i.e.: there is a lot of "structure" between you and the other people on the forum) so you are effectively very insulated from the impact of a negative (or positive) interaction. Whilst I think that there is increasing blurring between online and RL (real life) interactions, at the end of the day it is text on a screen. If you get a good balance between online living and RL living then you will have the all life skills you need (lets face it, thank god you're not locked into World of Warcraft for 18 hours a day).
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@simon626:
Sometimes when people get extremely heated over a couple of posts, that's what makes me not want to be on here anymore. Most everyone on here is an adult, and I think you should treat each other that way. If someone does something you disapprove of, just ask nicely and i'm sure they'd be more than willing to comply to your methods. I know i am.
For what it's worth Simon, I absolutely agree with you. And I would be personally very upset - and extremely pissed off - it anyone felt scared or worried about posting…G
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So, now you have got me on this topic. When I set this forum up, I made the decision that it would not be over moderated. I felt that some of the other forums out there are so far up their own arses that they seem to exist only for the initiated few. I did not want this forum to be like one of those. Yes, I do want it to be the best place on the web to get info and advice on Iron Heart, but it needs to be fun and useable too. Let's do our best to make that happen…G
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For what it's worth Simon, I absolutely agree with you. And I would be personally very upset - and extremely pissed off - it anyone felt scared or worried about posting…G
G, I'm so glad to hear you say this, you being the King Moderator. We all have our individual personalities and lemme tell ya – if you don't like the forum Shubha, you probably won't prefer the real Shubha. The two are fairly congruent. I'm pretty opinionated about certain topics but I mean no harm to anyone. I'm passionate about what I believe in. If I had to transform into someone else just to be liked and accepted on a forum, fuck it -- I would not bother wasting my time !
