Photograph and Camera talk
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2nd photo is great
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http://derivative666.smugmug.com/People/New-York-NY/22460088_jJSSzq
this one is pretty awesome and perfect captured!
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Thanks Rafa, still learning to use the M8 capturing moving objects with manual focus is still a work in progress for me. I am getting better with the Leica every outing. I am commuted to learn rangefinder photography I have gotten rid of all my Nikon gear.
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The weight of the m8 is not terribly heavy like my Nikon was the M8 is extremely solid yet much more compact then a d700 with 28-70 2.8. The camera to me seems to be balanced perfectly. The Leica glass is really what the whole setup is about.
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The weight of the m8 is not terribly heavy like my Nikon was the M8 is extremely solid yet much more compact then a d700 with 28-70 2.8. The camera to me seems to be balanced perfectly. The Leica glass is really what the whole setup is about.
now i want one badly…
time to graduate so i´m able to cop one of these M9´s...
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Talk to Jesse he is a Leica mavin.
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Talk to Jesse he is a Leica mavin.
when the time is right i definitely will…thanks J.
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No worries man, I think you will be quite happy. Just remember their is a learning curve.
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No worries man, I think you will be quite happy. Just remember their is a learning curve.
their is always a learning curve mate…no matter where in life! so yeah...just got to figure out how the fastest way is to learn it
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It is quite different from a SLR. Menus are so simple which allows you to strictly concentrate on your composition.
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careful there finn have you seen the price of leica glass? I love it and all but I wouldn't get into the leica stuff on a whim. and there are no zooms, effectively nothing but (excellent) prime lenses
if you buy smart (used) however the stuff holds its value well so you can buy and sell and try different stuff out
go check out rangefinderforum.com if you're really interested
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thanks for the hint jaco and you're right about the price you have to pay for a leica that's why I ain't getting one for atleast a year or two! I'm still a student as you may know so first there is graduation, then finding a good job with great paychecks at the end of the month, then there are important things and after that there's the leica…when I should have enough spare money lying around that is!
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I just have to play a bit of a devils advocate about rangefinders:
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Framing is less accurate than ttl/evf-cameras, so if your style of photography depends on accurate framing, this might be a problem.
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If you shoot wider than 25-28mm or longer than 75mm (and personally, even with a +1.25 diopter, 75mm is pushing it) a rangefinder might not be your cup of tea.
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the M8 and the M9 are both plagued by relatively low quality LCD-screens. Which this might not seem very important, I find it far harder to check if I have gotten focus just right on a M9 than on a nikon d700.
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While Leica cameras are mechanical marvels with amazing tight tolerances and a feel that is hard to describe with words, sadly, they aren't that good with electronics, I got tired of waiting 4-5-6 seconds after pressing "play" to get a picture up on the screen. This kind of sluggishness plagues the system imo.
For me, getting a high end mirrorless (sony nex-7) proved to be a smaller, lighter and better solution to the mobility/compactness question.
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I just have to play a bit of a devils advocate about rangefinders:
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Framing is less accurate than ttl/evf-cameras, so if your style of photography depends on accurate framing, this might be a problem.
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If you shoot wider than 25-28mm or longer than 75mm (and personally, even with a +1.25 diopter, 75mm is pushing it) a rangefinder might not be your cup of tea.
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the M8 and the M9 are both plagued by relatively low quality LCD-screens. Which this might not seem very important, I find it far harder to check if I have gotten focus just right on a M9 than on a nikon d700.
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While Leica cameras are mechanical marvels with amazing tight tolerances and a feel that is hard to describe with words, sadly, they aren't that good with electronics, I got tired of waiting 4-5-6 seconds after pressing "play" to get a picture up on the screen. This kind of sluggishness plagues the system imo.
I asked my friend the other day why he prefers his Leica M9 over his Canon 5dMkii and he just said,"it feels like a real film camera, which I love, but it's actually shit." For him, it's purely the feel and aesthetic of it that makes him use it. The glass is obviously great, but paired with a horrible sensor, the body doesn't really do it justice. This is coming from someone who shoots everyday, professionally.
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I just have to play a bit of a devils advocate about rangefinders:
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Framing is less accurate than ttl/evf-cameras, so if your style of photography depends on accurate framing, this might be a problem.
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If you shoot wider than 25-28mm or longer than 75mm (and personally, even with a +1.25 diopter, 75mm is pushing it) a rangefinder might not be your cup of tea.
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the M8 and the M9 are both plagued by relatively low quality LCD-screens. Which this might not seem very important, I find it far harder to check if I have gotten focus just right on a M9 than on a nikon d700.
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While Leica cameras are mechanical marvels with amazing tight tolerances and a feel that is hard to describe with words, sadly, they aren't that good with electronics, I got tired of waiting 4-5-6 seconds after pressing "play" to get a picture up on the screen. This kind of sluggishness plagues the system imo.
I asked my friend the other day why he prefers his Leica M9 over his Canon 5dMkii and he just said,"it feels like a real film camera, which I love, but it's actually shit." For him, it's purely the feel and aesthetic of it that makes him use it. The glass is obviously great, but paired with a horrible sensor, the body doesn't really do it justice. This is coming from someone who shoots everyday, professionally.
Indeed, the feel of it is just amazing, it feels like compact, solid brass and it looks great, as an accessory to a leather jacket and a motorbike? Perfect.
And in good light, the image quality is good as well, but when I shot semi-professionally, 90 % of my stuff were dark, badly lit metal concerts, aka: I needed iso 6400-12800, even with my 58/1.2.
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all true I think, leica made fabulous glass and great film cameras and could not survive as a business on that alone, the m8 and m9 are mainly for people who need a digital body to put their collection of film lenses on
the experience of shooting a Leica I find very enjoyable but if I got into them again it would be to shoot film