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    • ChrisC
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      Welcome, JVF.  If you don't mind my asking, what were your aesthetic dislikes about poly thread?  Also, how was the poly thread less comfortable?

      I think this is an interesting discussion, and relevant to understanding how what some people think is poor quality can be considered high quality by others.

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      • Megatron1505M
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        I think Chris had this one nailed pretty early, nothing more to add really.

        Although I will say that Iron Heart jeans retain their colour better than Samurai in my experience. So if quick fix, high contrast fading after just a few months wear is what you are looking for, you would be better off with some Sams.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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          I appreciate the warm welcome, and thank you Chris for the good question — although I'm really not sure about anything being nailed, and I certainly don't think this was implicit in the openness of your question! But if anyone likes to think so…that's fine. Chris, in all the garments I wear, I seek as much as possible for them to be made from natural materials. I find them to be more comfortable, and enjoy and savour the way they feel against my body. I like, too, how natural fibres wear. Specifically, as far as the IH's were concerned, I really liked the heavy, thick, but soft denim, but found by contrast the poly thread to be hard, unforgiving and abrasive, especially at the place of most contact, the waistband. So my enjoyment of the natural was mitigated by the synthetic! Therefore, let me make it clear, my aesthetic dislike of poly thread has an empirical, as well as an imaginative and intellectual basis. So on one level it is easy to answer your question Chris, but it does open a pandora's box of philosophical issues. Other issues raised were not relevant to your excellent question.

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          • SeulS
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            You picked a swell nick as well… I imagine you in a toga holding a brass cup of wine, resting one foot on a slave's back...

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            • ?
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              Are you celebrated on this forum for your pithy humour? Because your remarks appear quite irrelevant!

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              • SeulS
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                Lighten up, bud… Trust me: it will help you not only on here but in life as well...  😉

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                • ?
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                  Oh, I see you're a life coach. Now I get it! Thank you for the sage advice!

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                  • SeulS
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                    I love this guy!.. How about some fit pics of your Samurais to stay on topic (for a change)… What model did you go for?..

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                      Look mate, I'm not sure if there is a polite way of saying that your posts are completely vacuous. if you don't have anything constructive to say, don't post. You're just occupying space! You and your cronies are getting in the way of intelligent discussion. Which can be fun and flippant! So don't fall back on that old chestnut. But actually. I understand, this is your hallowed territory. You're just being protective. So, it's okay, I'll leave you to luxuriate in the spoils of your bigoted ignorance.

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        Most of us on here enjoy our denim/ jeans for the wear/ aesthetic properties, rather than the philosophical questions which they pose. They're jeans, not crop circles, jeans  :-\

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • SeulS
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                          @Julius:

                          Look mate, I'm not sure if there is a polite way of saying that your posts are completely vacuous. if you don't have anything constructive to say, don't post. You're just occupying space! You and your cronies are getting in the way of intelligent discussion. Which can be fun and flippant! So don't fall back on that old chestnut. But actually. I understand, this is your hallowed territory. You're just being protective. So, it's okay, I'll leave you to luxuriate in the spoils of your bigoted ignorance.

                          I'm not sure why you're being this defensive but hey… Good luck with the 'tude... I'll leave you be, before any of my ignorance rubs of on ya!..

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                          • thewickettT
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                            The best part about this whole string of posts is that the IH-634SR is made with cotton thread 🙂

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                            • J
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                              ^ this is the truth

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                              • ChrisC
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                                You must have missed it in the unexpected personal attacks, but the 634SRs are made with poly thread.  As far as I know, all IH products use poly cotton.

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                                  incorrect. sr is cotton thread, not poly, self edge description is wrong. 666s also cotton thread. 634-raw were done poly, like the 634s

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                                  • ChrisC
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                                    My fault.:)  I bow to your always superior knowledge of IH gear, Jaco.  Thanks, buddy.

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                                    • SeulS
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                                      @Chris:

                                      You must have missed it in the unexpected personal attacks, but the 634SRs are made with poly thread.  As far as I know, all IH products use poly cotton.

                                      It was a welcome change to be called an eejit in such fancy words…

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        Jaco is correct….

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • madmondayM
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                                          @Giles:

                                          And the SR is constructed using 100% cotton unile the 634S which uses stronger poly core…..............

                                          funny i was lookin at this but get worn out with conversations about better/worse & what something is/isn't.

                                          whoops while i was putting this the man has spoken.

                                          but f^ck it my no delete policy & JVF hang around as we are all entitled to our own opinion

                                          head high, middle finger higher

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                                          • J
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                                            @Chris:

                                            My fault.:)  I bow to your always superior knowledge of IH gear, Jaco.  Thanks, buddy.

                                            not always Chris, Giles had to correct me on this same question in the past. I think the self edge pages say poly thread stitch for all ih jeans

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