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    • redchrisR
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      So, whites , can anyone help with the sizing, I take a whole size down on red wing, from uk 11 to US 11, where should i go with the whites ?

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      • Megatron1505M
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        Exactly the same Chris.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • TinManT
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          @ronaldlsh:

          Btw, i was talking about the edges of the cxl leather. Not the edge of midsoles.

          .

          This is also one of the reasons I liked the cxl

          Tinman from iPhone

          Now, I have an IRONHEART!!

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          • hecticH
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            My order is in, thanks everyone for helping with the sizing/spec.

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            • Megatron1505M
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              Congratulations Jon, I just sent in my order for some Oxfords to Bakers…...and now I am extremely poor  😞

              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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              • hecticH
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                Boots will get you through times of no money better than money….

                ...oh wait, that's wrong.

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                • MichM
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                  Ed, how much wear do your LW engineers have?
                  i'm suprised by your findings of their leather, LW have the name to be very high quality, but yours indeed look pretty worn down.
                  I have noticed the leather on my LW carpenters is very supple, much more than my White's f.i., and it also feels thinner.

                  On a side note, i read your comment on the upcoming Lofgren engineers being made by the same company as the Lone Wolf, has this been confirmed, and if so, does Lofgren use the same CXL leather?
                  I read in a comment from John on the leather weight it was supposed to be around 2.5 oz, while most high end engineers seem to be made of heavier leather somewhere inbetween 5 and 9 oz.
                  But does this mean it's of a lesser quality…

                  @demonito:

                  compare cxl to dress leather

                  cxl fucks up and breaks easily and gets old faster than dress/oil leather or any other leather from whites/horween

                  compay lw boot sin black cxl and sd in water buffalo/dress leather same age same wear same resoled by okuyama see to compare

                  ive to talk guys at whites and viberg and i get the same comments

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                    ssup mich  howdy man?

                    my lw engineers are worn really hard riding the bike and walking look at how they fucked up
                    the leathe ront he carpenter is diff from the engineers i like te leather on the carpenters more cause theyre japan made dry tanned leather which is top notch!

                    cxl leather is NOT so great they look good when new but they get easily worn down.

                    as for the lofgren they look like theyre made by the same factory with LW youll know when you have seen alot of boots around.

                    hope john doesnt use CXL on those.

                    thinner leather is good but depedns on where the leather is from. and processed it. i suggest getting thicker leather for boots if you ride a bike

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                    • ChrisC
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                      Unless the leather is something exceptionally strong, like ostrich or kangaroo, 2.5 oz is way too light for boots.  Even then, it will have to be lined with something heavier so that the boot will hold its shape.

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                      • S
                        smittybat
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                        I've heard the Lofgren engineers are using Horween CXL.

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                        • LuciferL
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                          I have made a few things out of 10oz leather and I can't imagine boots made out of that thick leather being very comfortable, I suspect 4-5-6oz is the goldilock zone.

                          Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                          • MichM
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                            Everything going just dandy Ed!
                            Thanks for your answer, so the carpenters are not made of the same leather as the LW engineers… interesting.

                            Maybe it was a typo on the weight of the Lofgren engineers, it's hard for me to imagine John doing any compromise on quality as he's very much focussed on vintage correctness and oldschool craftmanship and quality.
                            Or they will be lined...

                            Is all CXL in general the same quality, or does it differ from one manufacturer ot the other?
                            To keep the talk also about White's in the White's topic, my SD have the thickest (and possibly heaviest, don't know) of all the boots i own, wish i had a pair of engineers made with this very same leather.

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                              NO NOT ALL YOU CAN CHOOSE HOW THICK OF THE LEATHER WHEN YOU ORDER IT FROM HORWEEN

                              and yes cxl is really a bad leather if you ask me i swear to god i will never have another boot in cxl leather again

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                                lofgren in cxl leather?  hes joining the hype bandwagon

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                                • Finn666F
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                                  just thought i should share this on here…

                                  @riff:

                                  For those that are curious about the build differences between White's, and mass produced boots like Red Wing, this pic should give you an idea:

                                  thanks for the pic riff!

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                                  • Megatron1505M
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                                    My SD's have been delayed coming back from their resoling until next week, they had to order the soles in  😠

                                    I really miss my SD's  😞

                                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                    • riffblaster generalR
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                                      last night:

                                      "Hey man,  these are too big for me.  I think they might fit you.  try em on."

                                      Hands me a pair of beautifully broken in White's Semi Dress boots.

                                      I try em on, they fit like a glove.

                                      "Cool.  Take em home.  I don't need em."

                                      I LOVE MY FRIENDS!!!!!

                                      PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                                      • Jordan23J
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                                        Nice Friends you have!

                                        AE

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                                        • eyeq8402E
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                                          ^ that is so awesome riff! Great friends and a nice pair of whites!!

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                                          • Megatron1505M
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                                            Riff, you have the best friends. Those boots look amazing  😉

                                            My SD's arrive back from resoling tomorrow, and I am captain excited  😉

                                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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