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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    Interestingly, I saw a lot of locally made jeans in Jakarta and I was asked my opinion on how to improve them.  My commonest comment on the slim/low rise models was to reduce the number of buttons from 5 to 4 - 5 in many cases, was just too crowded…..

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      Chris
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 28 Jun 2010

      Guess it makes sense that my Triple Works 1220s have only 3 buttons, since they have a low rise.

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        beautiful_FrEaK
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 15 Jun 2010

        @Seul:

        Will abuse this thread soon with fit pics of the S5000VX…  😉

        so after all this trouble (hey we now have 54 likes in this thread: at least something 😉 )

        I don't think you will be really pleased with the S5000VX based on what I know from you. It is quite fitted in the top-block (which you like) but the straight leg might end up looking bootcut-esque. As you already had your 634 tapered (IIRC) to appeal to you, you might have to do the same with S5000VX if you want to keep&like them.

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          Seul
          Joined: 24 Nov 2009

          Thanks lad!.. We'll see… You're probably right though... I'll just wear the 710XX'es then... Hell there are worse alternatives ey!..  🙂

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            beautiful_FrEaK
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 15 Jun 2010

            you'll see soon enough and can judge yourself 🙂

            but besides that: 17oz only qualifies as pyjamas for you, eh? 😉

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              jacoavlu
              Joined: 17 Dec 2010

              my ringrings have 5 buttons.

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                beautiful_FrEaK
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 15 Jun 2010

                BiG got the S5000KA24oz in. No pics up yet
                http://blueingreenso…emart&Itemid=41

                or check 2nd:

                http://www.e2nd.net/br-sj/sj-411-02-f/sj-s5000ka24oz.htm

                2nd also has pictures up. whether the lighting was different or prototype was different. the color doesn't appeal to me and the old S5000KA looked way better









                the best part on these is the leather patch IMO 😃

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                  Jordan23
                  Joined: 19 Nov 2011

                  Where did you get your sams from?…2nd?How much would this be total in Euro (inclusive german taxes)?Thx!

                  AE

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                    Seul
                    Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                    I kinda like those, though… Minus the 5th button  😉

                    Bit dear for me, though...

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                      beautiful_FrEaK
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 15 Jun 2010

                      I don't like the color at all. As I said the older ones had a more brown color. But as you like pigs, the color might appeal to you 😉

                      @Jordan23:

                      Where did you get your sams from?…2nd?How much would this be total in Euro (inclusive german taxes)?Thx!

                      I had one standard dealer for Samurai but also bought from 2nd or other shops.
                      But now I buy from DC4.
                      The price for these in Euro including tax and shipping would be…drumroll...a lot.

                      Ok..now we do the math together:
                      Item price is 52,500 Yen. Shipping would be (as this is a 24oz denim) around 4000 Yen: and now + 19% VAT and 12% custom tax for cotton products. If you can show them the exact quote for the shipping, only 19% VAT will be applied on this.

                      So the "cheapest" price would be 68775 Yen for the jeans + 4760 Yen for shipping = 73535 Yen which is roughly 730 €

                      You could also ask DC4 if they would special order these jeans for you if you don't want to deal with 2ND

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                        Jordan23
                        Joined: 19 Nov 2011

                        Thx a lot!Will ask Daniel.

                        AE

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                          jacoavlu
                          Joined: 17 Dec 2010

                          or they're $725 in the us from big and you get them shipped to you as a low value gift…

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                            Seul
                            Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                            That doesn't work with ze Germans… Customs check everything...

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                              Jordan23
                              Joined: 19 Nov 2011

                              That's right!

                              AE

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                                beautiful_FrEaK
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 15 Jun 2010

                                @jacoavlu:

                                or they're $725 in the us from big and you get them shipped to you as a low value gift…

                                that's why I posted both links. 2ND and BiG. But it's true. 725$ sound 'good' at first but you also have to pay shipping (although Gordon might skip that for you considering the price you already pay) and customs would be the same 31%

                                edit: but as I said. The old S5000KA was nicer in my eyes. Cooler color and nicer texture


                                http://www.samurai-j.com/lineup/jeans/s5000ka/index.html

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                                  jacoavlu
                                  Joined: 17 Dec 2010

                                  I'm curious, how does german customs know, if the jeans are sent without flashers or paperwork, just a pair of jeans declared as low value gift, how do they know?
                                  (just trying to think what I would do if I were in germany and wanted these, neither of which is the case)

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                                    beautiful_FrEaK
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 15 Jun 2010

                                    That's the funny thing. YOU have to prove what they are worth. Gifts and small orders are fine but just to a certain value (around 50€ IIRC). Anything above that, than you would have still pay 19% VAT. If the total value of the item exceeds 150€ you have to pay the 19% VAT + the customs tax (12% for cotton products as an example). Oh..19% for the shipping costs of course too…

                                    You know they aren't quite dumb and just because someone marked a little 'x' in the box for 'gift', doesn't mean they wouldn't investigate.

                                    Surely not every package ends up at the custom office. The all go through a first custom check at Frankfurt airport and there will be decided if you get the package directly without any customs or if you have to pick it up at your local custom office and you have to open it in front of a custom guy and show him the correct papers.

                                    You can luck out on customs and maybe 40% of my orders didn't end up at the local office but directly at my door.
                                    Only once I could convince one of the custom officers it is a gift. And I really paid nothing. But only because there was a hand written note in the package and the custom guy was too lazy to google for prices I believe.

                                    Living on the countryside helps here I guess. Heard some horrible storys from fellow German denim lovers living in Munich, Hamburg or Berlin where the custom guys are really tough to deal with.

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                                      jacoavlu
                                      Joined: 17 Dec 2010

                                      damn that's rough

                                      last edited by 5 Feb 2012, 15:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        beautiful_FrEaK
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 15 Jun 2010

                                        It really is. When Atzec (from Sufu and Mynudies) ordered something and he hadn't an invoice with him, the lady at the custom office googled and foung the pair on BiG and used that price.

                                        Another member 501lover/501cult (also here but I can't recall his screen name) bought some used and trashed Nudies and the guys at the custom office in Berlin didn't believe the value he stated and claimed these jeans have to be some crazy expensive designer stuff, not 2nd hand jeans. Issue went to the court and is still not decided yet (been a year or so).

                                        last edited by 5 Feb 2012, 15:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          kit99bar
                                          Joined: 23 Jul 2010

                                          I am digging the s5000 bkxbk that BiG got in recently.
                                          http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=10784&category_id=45&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62

                                          RAWWAR 2012!

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