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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      The IH-1955S have 5 buttons because the rise is longer that on other IH jeans.  G

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • urbanwoodsmanU
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        @Giles:

        The IH-1955S have 5 buttons because the rise is longer that on other IH jeans.  G

        This was the only reason I could of imagined there being a reason for difference in button amounts.

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        • C
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          Four buttons on my IH, five on my Sams, never noticed until today. My feelings on the Sam vs IH debate, they're different. Variety is the spice of life.

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          • GilesG
            Giles
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            Interestingly, I saw a lot of locally made jeans in Jakarta and I was asked my opinion on how to improve them.  My commonest comment on the slim/low rise models was to reduce the number of buttons from 5 to 4 - 5 in many cases, was just too crowded…..

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • ChrisC
              Chris
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              Guess it makes sense that my Triple Works 1220s have only 3 buttons, since they have a low rise.

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              • B
                beautiful_FrEaK
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                @Seul:

                Will abuse this thread soon with fit pics of the S5000VX…  😉

                so after all this trouble (hey we now have 54 likes in this thread: at least something 😉 )

                I don't think you will be really pleased with the S5000VX based on what I know from you. It is quite fitted in the top-block (which you like) but the straight leg might end up looking bootcut-esque. As you already had your 634 tapered (IIRC) to appeal to you, you might have to do the same with S5000VX if you want to keep&like them.

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                • SeulS
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                  Thanks lad!.. We'll see… You're probably right though... I'll just wear the 710XX'es then... Hell there are worse alternatives ey!..  🙂

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                  • B
                    beautiful_FrEaK
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                    you'll see soon enough and can judge yourself 🙂

                    but besides that: 17oz only qualifies as pyjamas for you, eh? 😉

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                    • J
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                      my ringrings have 5 buttons.

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                      • B
                        beautiful_FrEaK
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                        BiG got the S5000KA24oz in. No pics up yet
                        http://blueingreenso…emart&Itemid=41

                        or check 2nd:

                        http://www.e2nd.net/br-sj/sj-411-02-f/sj-s5000ka24oz.htm

                        2nd also has pictures up. whether the lighting was different or prototype was different. the color doesn't appeal to me and the old S5000KA looked way better









                        the best part on these is the leather patch IMO 😃

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                        • Jordan23J
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                          Where did you get your sams from?…2nd?How much would this be total in Euro (inclusive german taxes)?Thx!

                          AE

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                          • SeulS
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                            I kinda like those, though… Minus the 5th button  😉

                            Bit dear for me, though...

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                            • B
                              beautiful_FrEaK
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                              I don't like the color at all. As I said the older ones had a more brown color. But as you like pigs, the color might appeal to you 😉

                              @Jordan23:

                              Where did you get your sams from?…2nd?How much would this be total in Euro (inclusive german taxes)?Thx!

                              I had one standard dealer for Samurai but also bought from 2nd or other shops.
                              But now I buy from DC4.
                              The price for these in Euro including tax and shipping would be…drumroll...a lot.

                              Ok..now we do the math together:
                              Item price is 52,500 Yen. Shipping would be (as this is a 24oz denim) around 4000 Yen: and now + 19% VAT and 12% custom tax for cotton products. If you can show them the exact quote for the shipping, only 19% VAT will be applied on this.

                              So the "cheapest" price would be 68775 Yen for the jeans + 4760 Yen for shipping = 73535 Yen which is roughly 730 €

                              You could also ask DC4 if they would special order these jeans for you if you don't want to deal with 2ND

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                              • Jordan23J
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                                Thx a lot!Will ask Daniel.

                                AE

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                                  or they're $725 in the us from big and you get them shipped to you as a low value gift…

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                                  • SeulS
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                                    That doesn't work with ze Germans… Customs check everything...

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                                    • Jordan23J
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                                      That's right!

                                      AE

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                                      • B
                                        beautiful_FrEaK
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                                        @jacoavlu:

                                        or they're $725 in the us from big and you get them shipped to you as a low value gift…

                                        that's why I posted both links. 2ND and BiG. But it's true. 725$ sound 'good' at first but you also have to pay shipping (although Gordon might skip that for you considering the price you already pay) and customs would be the same 31%

                                        edit: but as I said. The old S5000KA was nicer in my eyes. Cooler color and nicer texture


                                        http://www.samurai-j.com/lineup/jeans/s5000ka/index.html

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                                        • J
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                                          I'm curious, how does german customs know, if the jeans are sent without flashers or paperwork, just a pair of jeans declared as low value gift, how do they know?
                                          (just trying to think what I would do if I were in germany and wanted these, neither of which is the case)

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                                          • B
                                            beautiful_FrEaK
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                                            That's the funny thing. YOU have to prove what they are worth. Gifts and small orders are fine but just to a certain value (around 50€ IIRC). Anything above that, than you would have still pay 19% VAT. If the total value of the item exceeds 150€ you have to pay the 19% VAT + the customs tax (12% for cotton products as an example). Oh..19% for the shipping costs of course too…

                                            You know they aren't quite dumb and just because someone marked a little 'x' in the box for 'gift', doesn't mean they wouldn't investigate.

                                            Surely not every package ends up at the custom office. The all go through a first custom check at Frankfurt airport and there will be decided if you get the package directly without any customs or if you have to pick it up at your local custom office and you have to open it in front of a custom guy and show him the correct papers.

                                            You can luck out on customs and maybe 40% of my orders didn't end up at the local office but directly at my door.
                                            Only once I could convince one of the custom officers it is a gift. And I really paid nothing. But only because there was a hand written note in the package and the custom guy was too lazy to google for prices I believe.

                                            Living on the countryside helps here I guess. Heard some horrible storys from fellow German denim lovers living in Munich, Hamburg or Berlin where the custom guys are really tough to deal with.

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