IH-461S - 21oz Selvedge Denim Boot Cut Jeans - Indigo
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yep same waist as 634s (36). Rise i can't really call cause all my jeans end up around the same spot (cause of my extra luggage around my midsection)  i guess mid if i had to label them. 
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Hi everyone, new here, and new to IH. I recently bought my first pair of IH 461's and they are a little tight. Still wearable and not uncomfortable. Just wondering if there are any strategies, other than wearing the hell out of them to get them to loosen up. Would a soak help them to loosen up faster or hurt them. Any advice would be appreciated. 
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well, if you put them on damp the stretching will be faster. But the long time effect stays the same. 
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I totally agree with them being understated. I have so so many pairs of straight and tapered cuts. It's nice to change it up with a bootcut every now and then. They have become my go-to jeans for when I'm riding my Harley. I did size up due to the thigh measurements and they fit great. Mine are not the 461S but the 461. 


















 you never have enough jeans...I'll keep you posted
 you never have enough jeans...I'll keep you posted