Music
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hahaha ouch
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Well, everyone has their opinions. Luckily I like it and its all that matters.
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Dig what you dig.
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I love all kinds of music, really all kinds. I would almost say that I live for music. I can get behind pretty much anything if it is done well and played in the right environment (except smooth jazz/easy listening type stuff). BUT, I don't really understand the stuff you guys are listening to above. I have enjoyed it at times (getting tattooed, before a hockey game, etc). I know music is more than just what you hear, it represents who we are and all that but do you guys listen to that driving in your car (not on the way to commit a violent crime). I mean like driving with your girl, going to dinner, "hey baby, check this out", hit play and some guy is fucking screaming bloody murder in front of a group of musicians playing as loud as they possibly can? Does that happen? I really don't mean to knock it. I know that it takes talent and it makes some people feel the way they are looking to feel when they play it…I just don't understand how that can be someones primary source of entertainment.
Riff, El, anyone else, I really would love to get your feedback on this stuff. If you guys dig it then I really am behind you guys but please help me understand. If it's something that I can understand...
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Personally I listen to it since I never really ventured out to different genres. I have ALWAYS been a rock fan and not that classical rock or other stuff, but the harder stuff. I remember going to watch MTV just to listen to linkin park back in the day. Eventually I branched out a bit more taking in different sub-genres of rock. My roots branch back to Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, and the Lostprophets. I came across a punk-ish band called Finch and they started making me appreciate screaming in music. I also dont JUST listen to screaming in music - rather the really fast pace and the intense drums.
Anyways to make a long story longer I was starting to really appreciate the fast footwork of the harder stuff, I even remember when I first started to get into screamo (I really don't listen to screamo anymore tho) which was about 3-4 years back. I remember if it didn't have clean vocals I couldn't stand it - after a while, however, I could stand it if there were no clean vocals. Then about 2-3 years ago I stumbled across a band called August Burns Red and they opened up the whole other side of Music to me. Matt Greiners work on the drums was beautiful to me (still is, but I realize it isn't as complex as I thought it was). So the fact that ABR only screams after about a year of listening to them I started searching iTunes to find out more music and started getting into all the experimental rock/progressive rock/etc.. And luckily about a year and a half ago I stumbled upon all the cool ass rock.
Now to answer your question - it took me a hell of a long time to get into this stuff. I mean you can NOT one day be listening to justin beiber and switch over to Meshuggah you have to actually appreciate the music first. I can almost guarantee anyone will not like it at first. It takes time first you have to start appreciating the sound and realize, oh shit… this is insane I mean like the guitars are insane, drumming, and believe it or not the vocals. Trying to play this shit for your gf is just dumb imo if anything take her to a concert where she could possibly see the complexity of the music. Also some music I hate with screaming in it - others I can really appreciate but for the most part none of them randomly hit the drums. If they can play uber-extreme-fast-melodic notes live and hit the notes at almost the same time as the recording I highly doubt they are just playing as loud as possible.
But think of it this way - how does someone listen to a band that you hate? Like I personally hate country... how the fuck could anyone listen to that? I find country to be THE hands down worse genre (sorry to those who love country but I needed an example of what genre I hate). We all are entitled to our own opinions, I know maybe 10-15 kids in my school actually likes music with screaming. And el, its all good
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i like any form of art that is motivated by the simple desire to create and express as opposed to "art" motivated by gaining popularity or making money. end of story. it's really not hard to tell what's real and what's fake. I like all forms of music and anyone here who knows me or knows anything about me will tell you that i truly do live for it. Heavy and aggressive music is a very wide and varied pallet and if you don't have an ear for it, or a frame of reference of where to place certain things within the spectrum then you are going to be lost. That said…. I generally find myself reverting to the "classics" when it comes to heavy and aggressive music. rarely does something new come out that really blows my mind.
do i really listen to this kind of music? of course i do. is it all i listen to? of course its not. i listen to music not only for the sonic textures musicians create (in their own personal style), but also for the fact that even though stylistically things can sound completely opposite of each other they can still convey the exact same angst or frustration or happiness or sadness. all music is created by people who all feel the same fucked up emotions and they all express them differently. its hearing their interpretation of those fucked up emotions that is interesting. i also obsessively want to know what makes an artist tick. who were their influences, and who influenced their influences? i think when you begin to dig into music's history its possible hear the connection that alot of this stuff that has been posted lately to previous more "accessible" music. if you were riding in my car with me you'd be just as likely to hear gillian welch as you would disfear, and then jump to hound dog taylor and the houserockers. if its good, i'll probably dig it.
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cristeza….i am a fan of your musical tastes. we played a fest with bolt thrower this past summer. they still got it! and wino is one of my all time favorite guitarists.
el clintor....if you like church of misery have you checked out G.A.T.E.S.? members of COM doing gism/discharge/venom worship. its fucking great.
laxlife.... dont take it personally. we are all old and jaded.
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@riffblaster:
i like any form of art that is motivated by the simple desire to create and express as opposed to "art" motivated by gaining popularity or making money. end of story. it's really not hard to tell what's real and what's fake. I like all forms of music and anyone here who knows me or knows anything about me will tell you that i truly do live for it. Heavy and aggressive music is a very wide and varied pallet and if you don't have an ear for it, or a frame of reference of where to place certain things within the spectrum then you are going to be lost. That said…. I generally find myself reverting to the "classics" when it comes to heavy and aggressive music. rarely does something new come out that really blows my mind.
do i really listen to this kind of music? of course i do. is it all i listen to? of course its not. i listen to music not only for the sonic textures musicians create (in their own personal style), but also for the fact that even though stylistically things can sound completely opposite of each other they can still convey the exact same angst or frustration or happiness or sadness. all music is created by people who all feel the same fucked up emotions and they all express them differently. its hearing their interpretation of those fucked up emotions that is interesting. i also obsessively want to know what makes an artist tick. who were their influences, and who influenced their influences? i think when you begin to dig into music's history its possible hear the connection that alot of this stuff that has been posted lately to previous more "accessible" music. if you were riding in my car with me you'd be just as likely to hear gillian welch as you would disfear, and then jump to hound dog taylor and the houserockers. if its good, i'll probably dig it.
Riff…you and me my friend, are on the same page with music and the appreciation of it. I actually couldn't agree more with your statements about all art.
Lax, it is very clear that you are a young buck. I don't mean that in a bad way but you are just starting to come into your own and figure out your identity and you are going to look back in a few years and be amazed at the difference in your tastes. You will still appreciate that stuff that got you started but that stuff will also give you douche chills thinking about it.
oh man, I'm getting old talking that way. fuck
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I think I listened to this everyday of my freshman year of high school(98'). This is what all those screamo bands want to sound like.
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I love all kinds of music, really all kinds. I would almost say that I live for music. I can get behind pretty much anything if it is done well and played in the right environment (except smooth jazz/easy listening type stuff). BUT, I don't really understand the stuff you guys are listening to above. I have enjoyed it at times (getting tattooed, before a hockey game, etc). I know music is more than just what you hear, it represents who we are and all that but do you guys listen to that driving in your car (not on the way to commit a violent crime). I mean like driving with your girl, going to dinner, "hey baby, check this out", hit play and some guy is fucking screaming bloody murder in front of a group of musicians playing as loud as they possibly can? Does that happen? I really don't mean to knock it. I know that it takes talent and it makes some people feel the way they are looking to feel when they play it…I just don't understand how that can be someones primary source of entertainment.
Riff, El, anyone else, I really would love to get your feedback on this stuff. If you guys dig it then I really am behind you guys but please help me understand. If it's something that I can understand...
I enjoy a wide variety of music. and yes I do this:
"I mean like driving with your girl, going to dinner, "hey baby, check this out", hit play and some guy is fucking screaming bloody murder in front of a group of musicians playing as loud as they possibly can?"
It's because she enjoys that style of music as well. But, there are many more times when I am listening to stuff like Tom Waits, or Steve Earle. Or classic stuff like The Beatles, or Zeppelin. Or even old country music. It all depends on where my thoughts are at the moment.
I know some people who listen to one specific genre and don't go beyond that. I just can't relate to that.
I do really enjoy heavy music, but it's not my primary source of entertainment. There's just so much stuff I'd miss out on if it were.
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i met my wife because she's into this music. i couldnt be married to someone who couldn't quote bad brains or black flag.
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lax watch out what you say about Country (I listen to both, country And western
)Leonard and Bubba might come and get ya….
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i grew up on country music. first album i ever owned was marty robbins "gunfighter ballads"
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My gf pretty much hates everything I listen too. That still doesn't stop me from playing the new Disma record for her in her car on a nice dreary Saturday morning. I told her it was the best death metal record in years. She was unimpressed.
