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    Appfaff
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 11 Oct 2013

    Planks are great, FLR does more for your upper back, so I usually have people do those.

    Remember - it’s not working until you start shaking!

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      Boyo
      The Unwoven
      Joined: 18 Oct 2017

      @TrickHell As a lifter who is well past his prime and as I make my slow decline into the "old man zone" (53 yrs old now) I can appreciate your enthusiasm for lifting and it makes for enjoyable reading. keep us in the loop

      Lively Up Yourself

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        Graeme
        啓蒙家
        Joined: 30 Mar 2012

        Chris Dickerson won Mr Olympia in 1982, at the age of 43, so you've still got time @TrickHell! 😃

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          JDelage
          啓蒙家
          Joined: 13 Jan 2012

          I'm 46. I'm doing 3x3's now. I was getting tired of not being able to fit in anything but '55 cuts…

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            Boyo
            The Unwoven
            Joined: 18 Oct 2017

            It all falls apart at age 49…

            Lively Up Yourself

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              Graeme
              啓蒙家
              Joined: 30 Mar 2012

              I've been having trouble with my back for a while, and had an X-ray before Christmas. It turns out that the problem is scoliosis, there's a slight bend in my spine.

              Anyway, I went to see a physio today, and he doesn't think that there's anything seriously wrong. A few exercises, a bit of stretching, and maybe correcting the form should fix it. That's good, and should allow me to lift heavier again. 🙂

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                kkozel
                Joined: 13 Jan 2016

                @TrickHell:

                Doing my last week of 5/3/1 before starting the 10,000 Kettlebell Swing Challenge. I've definitely gotten big and spent the last three months going super balls out on assistance, spending 2-3 hours at the gym every day. I have a solid base to work from and I know my weak points: upper chest and arms. My deadlift continues to be my weakest lift. My vanity projects for 2018 are mid / lower traps / rhombs and forearms. Streamlined my workout my picking on sticking points / weak spots and using supersets.

                I'll try to remember to get some final numbers for you guys after I finish up on the 31st.

                @TrickHell how are you approaching the 10k swing challenge? I did this last year, think I failed in changing the swing progression by the week. Some weeks were heavy single bell, some were lighter single arms. Good luck on it, takes a lot to stick with it.
                im catching up in this thread, so maybe the answer is down the line…
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                Other challenge you should check out after the 10k is working towards the simple/sinister. No idea what your baseline is, but for me its a long play, and similar to the 10k challenge in terms of sticking with it.

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                  kkozel
                  Joined: 13 Jan 2016

                  Nice work slashing the time, thats my biggest memory - some days time wasn't in my favor and i'd just try to sprint through the day and go lighter. No matter what you do its no joke, and its that 50 swing that is the kick in the ass…no matter how you get there, its always hard.

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                    Graeme
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                    We need to buy belts from Pioneer. 😃

                    https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHmLacgaDV/

                    Swipe right and watch the video.

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                      mpukas
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 17 Jan 2014

                      I just read {glanced, really} through this entire thread, and I'm surprised there's no mention of shirts.

                      I'm not a "big" guy by any means 5'-11", 185+/- lbs. I have a harder time fitting shirts than jeans. I prefer a more fitted, tailored fit for my clothes, even for denim-wear (which is all I ever wear). I really don't like boxy, baggy, over-sized clothes anymore. Work shirts are usually too boxy in the mid-section and waist, and why I prefer westerns for the slimmer body.

                      What I never see mentioned in any discussions of shirts of any type (tees or L/S button front) is the proportion of shoulder-to-chest measurements. I find that most shirts' shoulders at the top of the sleeve seam are too narrow compared to the chest width at the arm pit. Extra shoulder width would do a lot for comfort and ease of motion without changing the body width.

                      The best fitting shirts I have are The Flat Head westerns, in XL/44. The are cut like they are tailored specifically for me. Wide in the shoulders and chest, narrow in the waist, perfect length body and sleeves. If anything, the arms are a bit tight. It seems they don't work for most western guys though. Kyle, on SuFu, used to work for TFH in Japan some years ago, and he said Masa-san develops patterns cut for his own body, which even for a small Japanese man he has a large shoulder-to-waist ratio. Then the pattern is scaled up and down for other sizes. (Correct me if I'm wrong). However TFH does it, it works for me.

                      The other shirts I've found that fit me well are Wranglers Retro and Western Cowboy Work cut. They're super cheap - in price and quality - but they fit me well. A L gives me more room in the shoulders and chest, but are too long in the body, so I wear a M.

                      I wear an XL in IH westerns, and they are not ideal for me. I LOVE the styling, fabrics, details, etc. The chest and shoulders are tight, too wide in waist width, the body sometimes too long. Not including the collar button, the top 2 snaps pull outwards and the fabric looks distorted. Dean DelRay mention this too in his podcast interview w/ Giles. I need an XXL in the chest and shoulders, and a L everywhere else. I don't have an IH Work shirt, because the measurements look too wide in the waist and opening for me.

                      First world problems, I know, LOL!  😛

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                        JDelage
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                        I have the same problem you have, though not to the same extant. It's very frustrating.

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                          tvenuto
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 15 Sept 2016

                          I have a similar problem but not exactly. I have a big chest measurement compared to my shoulders so if the shirts were made like you suggest I’d have extra material at the shoulders. Now I ALSO think that the body is too big relative to the chest, but if the shoulders went up as well it’d create a different issue for me.

                          I only wear workshirts because the front yoke looks silly on my shoulders. My chest has plenty of topography/visual interest so breaking it up with an additional piece of fabric makes everything too busy. I think they look awesome on guys that have a very flat chest to shoulder transition for the very reason that they give the area some visual interest.

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                            mpukas
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 17 Jan 2014

                            We're all built differently. There's no ONE perfect cut of jeans or shirts that'll work for all of us.

                            I much prefer half-westerns, without front shoulder yokes. Full westerns can come off as too costume-y, regardless of brand. Unless your true vide is the cowboy aesthetic. Mine isn't, and I still wear mainly full westerns…  :o

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                              Graeme
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                              I got a new Pioneer belt today. It's the orange alligator one, the US flag belongs to a friend who goes to the gym.

                              The belt is 13mm, about half an inch, thick. That's the cutoff for powerlifting competitions. However I went for a 3" rather than 4" width because I'm very short waisted, so it fits into the tight gap between my ribs and hips. Besides, Rippetoe reckons 4" is too wide for most people to deadlift properly, and I think that I made the right choice.

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                                JDelage
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                                Those are cool. I have a traditional lifting belt with a 1-prong buckle. Yours is going to be a lot more convenient.

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                                  Graeme
                                  啓蒙家
                                  Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                  I was recommended to get a lever belt. They're easier to pull tight, but they're a struggle to adjust as they need a screwdriver or coin to do this! There are a pair of screws holding the buckle assembly on, and they have to be removed first.

                                  SBD sell a reassuringly expensive lever belt that can be adjusted without a screwdriver. They look pretty good.

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                                    JDelage
                                    啓蒙家
                                    Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                                    The m ain benefit (it seems) is that you can release the pressure between sets. With my belt, I find it easier to keep it tight between sets, which is not super comfy…

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                                    • neph93N
                                      neph93
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      Going to phoenix this thread as I am back in the gym after a two year  (:o) absence. Covid, injuries and life all got in the way.

                                      Having been advised by some "helpful" people that at my age and with my injuries I probably should just do yoga, I was a little unsure how to start. My previous programmes have been quite intensive with 4 sessions a week, using the push/pull/leg model, and mixing the big moves with isolation work. I blame the latter for irritating my shoulder injury.

                                      Given that, my need for a quick start, and the fact that I'm basically back to beginner strength levels, I'm going for StrongLifts 5x5. Starting with 30kg (squat/back row/deadlift) and 20kg (bench/ohp) It is ridiculously and insanely light, but I'm going to stay loyal to the programme. The adding of weight each session is fun, but I still feel like I could bump everything a lot and do fine.

                                      Any thoughts or experiences on 5x5?

                                      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                                      • Dame Vera Lynn
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                                      • Paul9221P
                                        Paul9221
                                        啓蒙家
                                        Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                        Welcome back to the gym, R!

                                        I used 5x5 for at least a year. It's been a while but the issue I had, in hindsight, was the lack of accessory lifts and 5x5 deadlifts. Heavy 5x5 deadlifts is a horrible idea. That's how I screwed up my back.  5x5 deadlifts is fine if it's light, but I learned the hard way, that you should not do high reps of heavy deadlifts.  Your lower back just won't take it.

                                        I eventually found a good trainer online who sends me a routine and answers questions.  Wish I would've done it sooner. Been using him for about 2 years now.

                                        Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                        • Paul9221P
                                          Paul9221
                                          啓蒙家
                                          Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                          I should add that 5x5 is a great program for someone getting started in lifting, like a teenager.  However, even for a young lifter, I would recommend a more balanced program after a few months of 5x5. In my opinion, it wasn't sustainable.

                                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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