IH-634S-142ib-c - 14oz Selvedge Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo/Black
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@Damocles I got 2" of stretch in the waist on these, but I think I tend to get more waist stretch then a lot of people (got a belly to exert waist stretch force). I got 1.5inch in 21oz. I would shoot for an inch smaller than you desire. Don't wear a belt until it's where you like it then use a belt.
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@Alex thank you!
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@wjw thank you for your response. I think size 32 would be ideal for me as I am afraid 33 will end up too big after stretch!