@cyclops This denim is very unique and I can't really compare it to anything else I have. They're not as stiff as I thought they would be for 19 oz. The denim has a nice slubby texture if you're into that or not. Mine haven't really stretched but they're not too tight so I didn't expect any stretching. I would just go for it they're amazing and probably my favorite jeans so far. Plus the patch is badass.
Here they are next to some 14 oz. 888s. You can see how different the material is.



