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    • DougNgD
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      That Grand Seiko has an aluminum bezel, doesn't it?

      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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      • GilesG
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        Dunno…....Anyone?

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • GilesG
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          DAMMIT

          I need one of these now…..

          https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-seiko-skx007-divers-watch

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • DougNgD
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            I have both the red/blue and black of the SKX007 Japan made. They're really meh.

            It's cool because they're so accessible and durable, but the accuracy is not great. Also the rehaut is oftentimes not aligned with the face right.

            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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            • GilesG
              Giles
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              You just saved me from myself….

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • DougNgD
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                With that being said, they inspire a level of dreaminess with their minimalism.

                It's pretty prominently featured in that Robert Redford movie where he's lost at sea.

                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                • seawolfS
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                  G, go for the Japanese version 😉 It's a little more expensive, but a lot more reliable. I actually got rid of all my other watches, and it's now the only watch I own. I believe it's the 007J or something like that.

                  “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                  @zeebeeleather

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                  • seawolfS
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                    @DougNg:

                    I have both the red/blue and black of the SKX007 Japan made. They're really meh.

                    It's cool because they're so accessible and durable, but the accuracy is not great. Also the rehaut is oftentimes not aligned with the face right.

                    Shit. He's right.

                    “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                    @zeebeeleather

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                    • UnTuckedU
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                      Anyone have recommendations for a good aftermarket metal bracelet?

                      Based on EVERY review I read/watch, the bracelets on all of the entry-level Seikos are notoriously shitty.

                      In search of:
                      IHV-04, med.
                      IHSH-185, large
                      IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                      • UnTuckedU
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                        ***A quick bit of info on what a "rehaut" is (For my fellow n00bs)

                        https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=35367

                        In search of:
                        IHV-04, med.
                        IHSH-185, large
                        IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                        • ChrisC
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                          @DougNg:

                          I have both the red/blue and black of the SKX007 Japan made. They're really meh.

                          It's cool because they're so accessible and durable, but the accuracy is not great. Also the rehaut is oftentimes not aligned with the face right.

                          I'd agree. I had one and eventually sold it.  I honestly think that half the watch nerds that own one bought it only to customize.  The modification options are seemingly endless.

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                          • GraemeG
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                            @DougNg:

                            That Grand Seiko has an aluminum bezel, doesn't it?

                            I've been Googling, and found this post on Watchuseek by someone from a Seiko boutique in Miami:

                            _I've mentioned before that ceramic bezel inserts are considered to be a risk in divers watches as a thin insert can break. A full ceramic bezel seems like it could be an option, but GS wants these to have the best functionality possible. Ceramic bezels are great for desk diving, but in the water will pose a risk. If it breaks from shock, you will no longer have your elapsed time bezel.

                            I understand you may prefer the ceramic, but it does make perfect sense why the stainless steel black hard coated bezel is chosen for all GS._

                            The product spec page doesn't actually say!

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                            • ChrisC
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                              @UnTucked, I bought a replacement bracelet from watchadoo on eBay, and it's built very well.  Strapcode is also well regarded, and even makes end links, so that your replacement bracelet integrates nicely into the case.

                              Here's the one I bought:

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                              • DougNgD
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                                That argument makes sense, however

                                1. how many people still use mechanical watches for real scuba diving?
                                2. don't you think if you whacked your arm against something that your bezel broke, it's time to get the fuck out of the water?

                                I think this plays off suckers who think that they can buy something super tough and it makes them a badass.

                                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                • DougNgD
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                                  Entry level Seikos look best on NATO straps IMO

                                  I forgot to add: the hands on my SKX007J were not aligned right and I had to send it off to service. It was really evident at the top of the hour when the minute hand was at the 12 and the hour hand was not at the hour marker properly. Really irritating for a watch that has the hype surrounding it.

                                  For a little more money, you can get a lot of bang for your buck from Seiko, but the SKX is not one of them. I swear up and down that the SARG011 is a great deal, and I got that for $250.

                                  I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                  • UnTuckedU
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                                    @DougNg:

                                    That argument makes sense, however

                                    1. how many people still use mechanical watches for real scuba diving?
                                    2. don't you think if you whacked your arm against something that your bezel broke, it's time to get the fuck out of the water?

                                    I think this plays off suckers who think that they can buy something super tough and it makes them a badass.

                                    Your inferences are comparable to denim snobs who only buy selvedge denim… Even though the 2 experts I've personally met (Giles and Haraki) agree that:

                                    1. There are some phenomenal non-selvedge denims out there, and there are some very shit selvedge denims as well

                                    2. You can make a far better cut from non-selvedge denim. (Not limited by the selvedge line)

                                    In spite of those 2 pieces of information, the "marketing" in the denim world for the past however many years will ensure that selvedge reigns supreme, because it's a "premium feature that all quality jeans should have".

                                    Based on the (alleged) comment from the boutique salesman, I think it's MORE than plausible, and in my mind makes Seiko seems "better" in a sense if they are indeed making a "beautiful tool", rather than "something more beautiful, that's kinda tool-ish".

                                    In search of:
                                    IHV-04, med.
                                    IHSH-185, large
                                    IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      @Graeme:

                                      Ceramic bezels are great for desk diving, but in the water will pose a risk. If it breaks from shock, you will no longer have your elapsed time bezel.

                                      And yet the crystal is sapphire.  If impact resistance was the primary concern, it should be Hardlex, or even acrylic.

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                                      • DougNgD
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                                        I still maintain that if you really are going to be that rough on your watch, you should own a G-Shock.

                                        I've been told that they have no soul, but seriously, if I'm going to beat on something (anything) to death, I don't want it to talk back to me.

                                        I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                        • JDelageJ
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                                          How useful a good watch is for diving is questionable at best. The dive computer is infinitely more useful and accurate, and in case of failure, you need to ascend anyways, preferably with a buddy. In fact, having a cheap dive computer as a back up is probably not a bad option.

                                          I've seen plenty of aluminum bezels dinged up, but I have never seen a broken ceramic bezel. I'm sure it happens but can't be that often.

                                          That SKX007 cannot be hand wound. To me this is an insta-killer on a watch that isn't worn every day.

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                                          • JDelageJ
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                                            @DougNg:

                                            I still maintain that if you really are going to be that rough on your watch, you should own a G-Shock.

                                            Yes, from a purely utilitarian stand point, they're hard to beat.

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