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    • DougNgD
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      The ISO certification for diving is kind of interesting. If you look at the certification criteria, most dive watches meet the criteria, just very few companies put in to be certified. Seiko is one of the few that have.

      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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      • JDelageJ
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        Most certifications are for the benefit of the certifying agency / org, nobody else's.

        Seikos seem to have quite the following. I am astounded to see the top of the line GS dive watches flirting with with Rolex prices.

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        • DougNgD
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          Have you checked out the Seiko JDM models yet?

          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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          • GraemeG
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            This showed up in my Google newsfeed from an article at Time and Tide. It's the Longines Legend Diver.

            Prices start at around $2000, which again puts outside @JDelage's budget. It's got an ETA movement, a compressor case, and 300 metres of water resistance. I think that it's a nice looking piece, and probably works better as a dress watch than the Emile Chouriet Challenger Deep that I posted a few days ago.

            Time and Tide have another review, and Hodinkee have a week on the wrist (without any diving).

            @DougNg I'd be interested in knowing how some of the non-certified diver's watches stand up to the ISO tests. There are a few things in it, such as anti magnetism, that mechanical movements are quite susceptible to. No, I don't expect you to know the answer, and since I can't actually go scuba diving (asthma), it's pretty pointless for me to worry about.

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            • DougNgD
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              If you look at the standard, it has to be relatively antimagnetic:

              Magnetic resistance. This is tested by 3 expositions to a direct current magnetic field of 4,800 A/m. The watch must keep its accuracy to ± 30 seconds/day as measured before the test despite the magnetic field.

              • Honestly, I doubt there is anything particularly special about an SKX that allowed it to pass the ISO certification

                With that being said, I really don't hold ISO certifications in general in very high regard.

              I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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              • JDelageJ
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                @DougNg:

                Have you checked out the Seiko JDM models yet?

                Yes. Some are very nice. I like the 'titanium shogun' (SBDC029). It a bit wide for my taste but surprisingly thin (13mm). It doesn't use a sapphire crystal though & I'm not sure about the bezel. Still, one cannot beat that name… The SBDC051 is lovely too, but it has an aluminum bezel.... The SBDC047 is gorgeous, and has the right features (sapphire & ceramic), but is very wide. I might make an exception for that one... It's nice and thin so it might be easy to wear.

                The tunas are cool looking but unwearable outside of the water.

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                • DougNgD
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                  I honestly don't understand the appeal of the Tunas at all.

                  I imagine most owners wear this overbuilt bolthead looking doohickey on their wrists so they can argue on WUS from their couch.

                  I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                  • JDelageJ
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                    I think that while diving they probably make a lot of sense. Outside of the water though … yeah, not so great.

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                    • GilesG
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                      I have a Seiko diver…..

                      And I will likely get one of these soon:

                      And I do dive a lot.  But as functional diving tools, they're pretty useless.  I merely use them as a (thus far never needed) back up to this:

                      In fact, I dive more with this than the Seiko:

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • UnTuckedU
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                        2 replies to Gile's  post…

                        1. That Seiko is fecking GORGEOUS!

                        2. The more I see the Pinions, the more I love them... Plain & simple, and executed (Dare I say) perfectly.

                        In search of:
                        IHV-04, med.
                        IHSH-185, large
                        IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                        • DougNgD
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                          That Grand Seiko has an aluminum bezel, doesn't it?

                          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                          • GilesG
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                            Dunno…....Anyone?

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • GilesG
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                              DAMMIT

                              I need one of these now…..

                              https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-seiko-skx007-divers-watch

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • DougNgD
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                                I have both the red/blue and black of the SKX007 Japan made. They're really meh.

                                It's cool because they're so accessible and durable, but the accuracy is not great. Also the rehaut is oftentimes not aligned with the face right.

                                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                • GilesG
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                                  You just saved me from myself….

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • DougNgD
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                                    With that being said, they inspire a level of dreaminess with their minimalism.

                                    It's pretty prominently featured in that Robert Redford movie where he's lost at sea.

                                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                    • seawolfS
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                                      G, go for the Japanese version 😉 It's a little more expensive, but a lot more reliable. I actually got rid of all my other watches, and it's now the only watch I own. I believe it's the 007J or something like that.

                                      “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                      @zeebeeleather

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                                      • seawolfS
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                                        @DougNg:

                                        I have both the red/blue and black of the SKX007 Japan made. They're really meh.

                                        It's cool because they're so accessible and durable, but the accuracy is not great. Also the rehaut is oftentimes not aligned with the face right.

                                        Shit. He's right.

                                        “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                        @zeebeeleather

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                                        • UnTuckedU
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                                          Anyone have recommendations for a good aftermarket metal bracelet?

                                          Based on EVERY review I read/watch, the bracelets on all of the entry-level Seikos are notoriously shitty.

                                          In search of:
                                          IHV-04, med.
                                          IHSH-185, large
                                          IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                          • UnTuckedU
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                                            ***A quick bit of info on what a "rehaut" is (For my fellow n00bs)

                                            https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=35367

                                            In search of:
                                            IHV-04, med.
                                            IHSH-185, large
                                            IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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