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    iammortalcombat
    Haraki san Prodigy
    Joined: 2 Jan 2022

    I switched from traditional bodybuilding several months ago, to "functional" bodybuilding a la Revival Strength. The program is done by an ex-crossfitter who was tired of his body feeling so beat up. I was right there with him. Pushing closer to 40 these next couple of years, my body was starting to constantly hurt even with mobility work and stretching. It got bad when I threw my back after hitting a deadlift PR during covid (~243 kilos or 535 freedom units).

    This week is benchmark week. I was challenged to do a 5 rep squat max and then a single after. Managed to pulled off a top set of 365 for 5 and then a single at 405. No PRs on this round, but the best part - no hip, back, or knee pain as i have seemed to correct all of them over the last 6 months.

    I just wanted to tell someone since I lift alone. My girl knocked out a 160lb 5rm too.

    Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.

    I'm 36 and continuing to improve my joints and overall strength daily. Have been doing this stuff seriously since 2008.

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      Paul9221
      啓蒙家
      Joined: 19 Apr 2011

      @iammortalcombat:

      I switched from traditional bodybuilding several months ago, to "functional" bodybuilding a la Revival Strength. The program is done by an ex-crossfitter who was tired of his body feeling so beat up. I was right there with him. Pushing closer to 40 these next couple of years, my body was starting to constantly hurt even with mobility work and stretching. It got bad when I threw my back after hitting a deadlift PR during covid (~243 kilos or 535 freedom units).

      This week is benchmark week. I was challenged to do a 5 rep squat max and then a single after. Managed to pulled off a top set of 365 for 5 and then a single at 405. No PRs on this round, but the best part - no hip, back, or knee pain as i have seemed to correct all of them over the last 6 months.

      I just wanted to tell someone since I lift alone. My girl knocked out a 160lb 5rm too.

      Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.

      I'm 36 and continuing to improve my joints and overall strength daily. Have been doing this stuff seriously since 2008.

      I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details?  Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.

      Blanket-line all the things!!!

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        EdH
        Iron Heart Deity
        Joined: 2 Jan 2022

        @iammortalcombat:

        I switched from traditional bodybuilding several months ago, to "functional" bodybuilding a la Revival Strength. The program is done by an ex-crossfitter who was tired of his body feeling so beat up. I was right there with him. Pushing closer to 40 these next couple of years, my body was starting to constantly hurt even with mobility work and stretching. It got bad when I threw my back after hitting a deadlift PR during covid (~243 kilos or 535 freedom units).

        This week is benchmark week. I was challenged to do a 5 rep squat max and then a single after. Managed to pulled off a top set of 365 for 5 and then a single at 405. No PRs on this round, but the best part - no hip, back, or knee pain as i have seemed to correct all of them over the last 6 months.

        I just wanted to tell someone since I lift alone. My girl knocked out a 160lb 5rm too.

        Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.

        I'm 36 and continuing to improve my joints and overall strength daily. Have been doing this stuff seriously since 2008.

        Nice. I am similar age, but only been lifting since 2012 or so. I recently switched to more of a "powerbuilding" programme as opposed to a pure strength programme. Still in the hypertrophy cycles, and my goodness doing 8-10 rep sets and deliberately leaving reps in the tank is a hell of a lot easier than pushing myself to near failure like I have been for years.

        @iammortalcombat:

        Just noticing lots of folks here complaining of aches and pains, and the general idea on the internet about squatting/deadlifting being bad for you. They are not. Squatting and deadlifting incorrectly are bad for you.

        To add a little nuance to this bit, I think I read or heard somewhere that regular lifters have fewer back problems than the average person. The hypothesis, which seems plausible to me, is that because they are trained their back will be better able to handle injury caused by incorrect form when lifting (i.e. daily life). While it's anecdotal, when I think of all the people in my life that I know that don't lift and their complaints about their back injuries caused by silly things like their kid wriggling funny when they picked them up and throwing something out of whack, it seems to make sense to me.

        Take the dive...

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          EdH
          Iron Heart Deity
          Joined: 2 Jan 2022

          @Paul9221:

          I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details?  Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.

          I'm running the Juggernaut AI programme which is available as a subscription app on iTunes and Google, etc. I have my own gym in the garage since lockdowns so I see the subscription as basically replacing my gym membership fees. I'm running their "powerbuilding" programme, which has 4-5 hypertrophy cycles with nice, easy, 8-10 rep sets, before doing two strength cycles at the end to test new 1 rep maxes, etc. I'm still in cycle 4 or something, so not gotten into those strength cycles yet, but so far the higher rep work has led to far fewer complaints as far as joints are concerned.

          Take the dive...

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            Paul9221
            啓蒙家
            Joined: 19 Apr 2011

            @EdH:

            @Paul9221:

            I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details?  Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.

            I'm running the Juggernaut AI programme which is available as a subscription app on iTunes and Google, etc. I have my own gym in the garage since lockdowns so I see the subscription as basically replacing my gym membership fees. I'm running their "powerbuilding" programme, which has 4-5 hypertrophy cycles with nice, easy, 8-10 rep sets, before doing two strength cycles at the end to test new 1 rep maxes, etc. I'm still in cycle 4 or something, so not gotten into those strength cycles yet, but so far the higher rep work has led to far fewer complaints as far as joints are concerned.

            I'm also on a hypertrophy program in the garage!  It's about 4 days of lifting per week and the reps are usually 4-7, 7-10, 10-15.  Sometimes reps go as high as 25 for light stuff with bands.  I use a remote trainer who puts together the programs on his website and answers questions via email.

            I briefly flirted with going back to heavy lifts (2 sets of 5) and managed to hurt my back and hip within 2 weeks LOL.  Nothing serious, at least nothing that rolling my back over a lacrosse ball couldn't fix, but serious enough to knock some sense into my head about my age 🙂

            And on those non-lifting days, I ride the assault bike.  Love that thing!

            Blanket-line all the things!!!

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              iammortalcombat
              Haraki san Prodigy
              Joined: 2 Jan 2022

              I'm pretty happy with my system right now but I'm always on the lookout for a replacement, just in case. Got any details?  Gonna be 42 this year and I'm dealing with all of those aches now and then.

              Check out revival strength or Marcus filly on Instagram.

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                Graeme
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                I'm currently using Dr Dani Antonellos as a coach. She's an osteopath and WBFF competitor, who works with Dr Andrew Lock, a genius physio and man mountain. My programme is focused on improving my back, which has been trashed by two years of lockdowns that the State of Victoria endured.

                So far it seems to be going well. Dr Lock's theory is that most injuries are caused by weaknesses, imbalances, or poor technique, and that focusing on building up strength will cure most problems. I'm doing activation exercises, which no doubt will make me look like a complete idiot to any gym-crushes, and a lot of unilateral work, but things are slowly improving.

                But, as @EdH and @iammortalcombat said, lifting heavy is good for you if you do it correctly.

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                  the246guy
                  Haraki san Prodigy
                  Joined: 8 May 2016

                  Came up with this Forearm trainer to do some exercises for the foream!

                  I just now need to add a weight plate to it!

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                    Nik
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 12 Nov 2020

                    Bought a small dumbbell set and pull up bar for home strength workouts after my coach advised doing them twice a week in addition to the running, swimming, and biking as I prepare for a 100k ultramarathon and 70.3 Ironman this summer.

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                      the246guy
                      Haraki san Prodigy
                      Joined: 8 May 2016

                      I'm not sure if this is an appropriate thread. Is anyone having experience with using a Concept2 rower for home training? I'm considering getting one as I have learnt that with a rower device, you get to work out your whole body at once. So I'm serously considering getting one, perhaps the concept2 model D!

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                        tody
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 24 Feb 2021

                        Somewhere on here, the Concept 2 has been discussed already.
                        As an ex-rower who now uses this machine 5-6 times a week, I strongly encourage you to try it out. There are lots of youtube-videos on the correct rowing technique, and when pairing the monitor with a hf-monitor and your phone, you can store all your workouts online. Concept 2 offers great challenges, too.
                        If you're getting one, try to find a used machine. They are nearly indestructible, my Dad has a Model A and B, I have a model C and D. You can also get all spare parts from concept2.

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                          the246guy
                          Haraki san Prodigy
                          Joined: 8 May 2016

                          @tody Thanks for the reply. The important thing that I want to know is if the rower device is effective for a full body workout? It is atleast what the internet claims and which is why I'm interested to get one. I tried finding one used, but the price difference is not that much compared to a new.

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                            spitfiredealer
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 8 Apr 2013

                            I have one and use it mostly in CrossFit training. One of the best purchases I have made from a fitness point of view

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                              JDelage
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                              I have a Concept2 rower and they're great. You need to learn the proper technique, but it's not very complicated (you do need to look it up).

                              It is a reasonably complete body workout, but it's more of an endurance workout than a strength workout. If you're reasonably fit, it doesn't replace weights.

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                                the246guy
                                Haraki san Prodigy
                                Joined: 8 May 2016

                                Thanks for the suggestion. I just came back from a local shop that had the Concept2 in display. Tried it for a few minutes and looks like it is indeed a full body workout (well at least 85%). I have a few weights that I can use for the strength. I think if I go for the Concept2, I can complement it for my lack of physical activity during winter.

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                                  tody
                                  啓蒙家
                                  Joined: 24 Feb 2021

                                  have a look at this youtube channel, it may give you some insights:

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                                    JDelage
                                    啓蒙家
                                    Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                                    That one is good too:

                                    I like his 30 days of 30 mn series, which started last november:

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                                      Dmart
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 24 Mar 2021

                                      The rowers are nice. Is it a full body workout? It depends on what you expect. If you want to be somewhat in shape and fit, yes. Do you want to get big and strong, then certainly not, since you need way more resistance to increase strength and muscle.

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                                        FlavourFade
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                                        Joined: 15 Jan 2024

                                        Long time no post here. Did my first crossfit competition yesterday. Did not make it top 3 but my goal was to make it through the day without dying. Proud to achive this after about 4 months training.

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                                        wtb:
                                        The Pale Rider XXL

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                                          neph93
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                                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                          Congratulations! What kind of routimes were you put through?

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                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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