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    • I
      IHIHIH
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      apologies to hijack this thread ..

      like to find out abt Toys McCoy .. are their tees loop wheeled?

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      jai guru neva om

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      • FlashF
        Flash
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        As far as i know all mccoys tee's are loopwheeled with the exception of the 2 pack tee's and the raglan sleeve baseball tee's
        There fabrics are imho the best that i have owned ( IH, samurai , SDA, flathead )

        FS  FT.IHSW04 size s , samurai loopwheeled tee ,fullcount flannel      http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3997.0

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          ADDIC
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          Jord666,

          what jeans are those? liking the fit.

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          • I
            IHIHIH
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            thanx flash..

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            jai guru neva om

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            • scroogenS
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              Real McCoy's and Toys McCoy aren't the same company

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              • FlashF
                Flash
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                Your right mate , i had a short conversation with fung at take5  HK on the subject a few years ago but the language barrier ( Me speaking no Cantonese at all 🙂 ) and the misses having no interest in translating ( we were there for about an hour so she was realy bored ) meant I didn't fully understand
                They were linked in the past but there relationship now is unknown to me  ( anyone shed any light on there present relationship ? )

                FS  FT.IHSW04 size s , samurai loopwheeled tee ,fullcount flannel      http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3997.0

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                • Sugar MountainS
                  Sugar Mountain
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                  Far as I know, the two companies are completely separate now. I have also chatted with the guys at Take5 about the same subject! (I think my wife was reading Lightning in the corner ;))

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                  • Sugar MountainS
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                    A little more info… Toys McCoy is run by Hiroshi Okamoto (the guy on the right in the pic below). He split with the McCoys that came to be owned by Hitoshi Tsujimoto of NYLON in the 1990s as I understand it. Toys McCoy sub brands include McHill, the Steve McQueen line and Buco.

                    And an interesting blog entry:

                    The McCoys at this point were perhaps the most relevant vintage replica company anywhere in the world. There were others however that sat on the peripherals that were equally proficient like Pherrows and Buzz Rickson and even the original conception of Evis produced some amazingly beautiful garments. These companies were everything that I came to associate with integrity and authenticity and for many years I was a die hard customer. Sometime during the 2000's I began to feel uneasy about many of these Japanese companies and the direction that they were taking or not taking as the case may have been. The McCoys underwent a strange break up of partnerships that is forever difficult to understand unless you are an insider and rumours ran amok that the president had squandered the profits on ridiculous things including a B-17 bomber. As it happened a new Real McCoys / Toys McCoys emerged but it was different with Hiroshi Okamoto at the helm gone was the feeling of ultra authenticity and stripped down military utilitarianism and what replaced it was an air of safeness, a cutesy world of Disney characters and the over exploited Felix the Cat icon that smacked of the same Japanese-ness that exploits Hello Kitty or Captain Santa, essentially I felt the Real McCoys had become the Cockpit, over indulgent, over detailed and overpriced.

                    http://papanuisays.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/critiquing-market-lets-be-honest.html

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                    • FlashF
                      Flash
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                      Interesting read , thanks mate

                      FS  FT.IHSW04 size s , samurai loopwheeled tee ,fullcount flannel      http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3997.0

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                      • Sugar MountainS
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                        Mh sai mh goy la!

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                          beautiful_FrEaK
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                          Looking at the Real McCoys HP, there is a section for Buco. So I think Buco belongs to RMC. Just like Joe McCoy too

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                          • Sugar MountainS
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                            I think Toys makes Buco helmets only and all else is manufactured by RM:

                            http://toys-mccoy.shop-pro.jp/?mode=grp&gid=78671

                            preeetty confusing…

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                            • Jordan23J
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                              AFAIK the Felix-The-Cat-Series is produced by Toys!

                              Enjoy ya addiction!

                              AE

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                                IHIHIH
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                                interesting read.. thanx ..

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                                jai guru neva om

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                                • hassinatorH
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                                  @Sugar:

                                  A little more info… Toys McCoy is run by Hiroshi Okamoto (the guy on the right in the pic below). He split with the McCoys that came to be owned by Hitoshi Tsujimoto of NYLON in the 1990s as I understand it. Toys McCoy sub brands include McHill, the Steve McQueen line and Buco.

                                  The McCoys underwent a strange break up of partnerships that is forever difficult to understand unless you are an insider and rumours ran amok that the president had squandered the profits on ridiculous things including a B-17 bomber. As it happened a new Real McCoys / Toys McCoys emerged but it was different with Hiroshi Okamoto at the helm gone was the feeling of ultra authenticity and stripped down military utilitarianism and what replaced it was an air of safeness, a cutesy world of Disney characters and the over exploited Felix the Cat icon that smacked of the same Japanese-ness that exploits Hello Kitty or Captain Santa, essentially I felt the Real McCoys had become the Cockpit, over indulgent, over detailed and overpriced.

                                  http://papanuisays.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/critiquing-market-lets-be-honest.html

                                  interesting post and i would have to love a president that could get hold of a b-17 but looking at hiroshi's own commercial/film here three of the first four jackets have bugs bunny; tasmanian devil and felix the cat as their main logos!

                                  http://www.collezione-giappone.com/buco/info/info.php

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                                  • TakeshiT
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                                    where can I pick one of these up ?

                                    You only live once , if done properly then once is enough

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                                      is that real mccoys? If so check blue in green nyc
                                      I can't tell though it looks just like a buzz rickson in which case self edge has them

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                                      • TakeshiT
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                                        cheers , blue in green seem sold out , will check Buzz as they are very similar ..

                                        You only live once , if done properly then once is enough

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                                        • natehateN
                                          natehate
                                          啓蒙家
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                                          if you going with a buzz and are in the states go direct
                                          http://www.historypreservation.com/hpassociates/index2.php

                                          don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                          • Sugar MountainS
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                                            @hassinator:

                                            interesting post and i would have to love a president that could get hold of a b-17 but looking at hiroshi's own commercial/film here three of the first four jackets have bugs bunny; tasmanian devil and felix the cat as their main logos!

                                            http://www.collezione-giappone.com/buco/info/info.php

                                            I'm surprise no one else mentioned the B-17. If it's true, it's bloody amazing!

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