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    • Jordan23J
      Jordan23
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      @ronaldlsh:

      Mega, go for it! The chromexcel leather looks really good..

      And so the White's finally arrived.


      6inch Smokejumper with Brown Chromexcel


      Vibram #430


      I love the look of the double stitch.

      I must say I am impressed by the construction of the boots, the stitching qualities are top notch and I love the feel of the laces haha. Definitely worth the wait.

      Can you tell me your specs, please!Would be nice.

      I like them!!!!!!!!!

      AE

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      • ronaldlshR
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        Here u go:

        Leather 1: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
        Leather 2: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
        Toe Vamp Leather: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
        Toe Cap Leather: None
        Celastic Toe Box: Re-enforced Toe
        Steel Toe: No
        Heel Plate Leather: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
        Height: 6"
        Upper (Shaft) Leather : Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
        Leather Liner: Black
        Top: Rolled
        Back Plate Leather: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
        Pull Loop: Yes
        Eyelet Color: Brass
        Eyelet Configuration : Hook and Eyelet
        Top Eyelet : Hook
        Lace to Toe: Plain Toe
        Lace: Leather
        False Tongue: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
        Sole: Vib 430
        Half Slip: Yes
        Heel Shape: Curve
        Heel Height: Minus 1/4"
        Last: Standard
        Midsole: Standard
        Midsole/Sole Color: Natural
        Size - Length: 9.5
        Size - Width: EE

        I wore my white's out today, and in about 30mins, i could really feel the pain at the arch. Anyone experienced this before? Their arch design is supposed to improve comfort, but the pain is driving me nuts..

        THE RAW WAR

        @ronaldlsh:

        > Just going to keep wearing IH.

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        • bagley920B
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          I would compare that to using muscles you haven't used in awhile. If all of your other shoes are different arch design, your feet may just need to get used to them.

          If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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          • Megatron1505M
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            If you're used to wearing sneakers, or lighter weight work boots with crepe soles (Red Wings or Timberlands), you will definitely feel this pain for a couple of weeks. The reason for this is that when you were your sneakers or crepe boots your weight will distribute across the length of your foot, this is actually not natural. The arch ease system puts your foot at a slightly downward angle, this encourages the weight to be put onto the back of your foot (your heel), straight down your leg.

            I wouldn't worry too much, you almost have to re-train your feet into the correct weigh distribution and walking position. It is definitely worth it in the end though.

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • ronaldlshR
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              Thanks bagley and mega!

              I will keep wearing them, maybe for a short walk to begin with. I hope the pain will get better as I re-train my feet. I know very well that I have very bad walking habits, which might be the reason for the pain..

              THE RAW WAR

              @ronaldlsh:

              > Just going to keep wearing IH.

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              • ChrisC
                Chris
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                Not having owned a pair of White's, I don't have any personal experience with the Arch-Ease system, and owners consistently praise the comfort of the boots after the initial break in period.

                Having said that, I'm really curious about how a podiatrist would evaluate the underlying justification for Arch-Ease.  According to White's, it's intended to realign your foot into a relaxed, natural position, which is more comfortable and reduces fatigue.  This implies that the position your foot assumes while standing barefoot is somehow inferior and/or wrong.  Maybe I'm off base, but I have a hard time accepting that our feet are inherently flawed and that the way billions of people have walked for millennia is completely wrong.

                Feet are exceptionally complex, and the way they behave in motion and bearing weight is understandably different than the way they behave while hanging static in midair.  I'm just wondering how much of the Arch-Ease concept is grounded in biomechanical science, and how much of it is marketing puffery.

                By the way, this isn't meant as an attack on White's; the company has been making beautiful, well built boots for decades.  I'm just genuinely curious about the orthopedic validity here.

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                • SeulS
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                  Chris: I completely feel the same… I'm too drunk to talk about how I'm a sucker for ads for "heavy duty insoles", and how they don't seem to work at all, but yeah: any talk about that kind of nonsense always gets me blood up ey...

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    I see what you're saying, all I can say is that it works for me. I too would be interested in the professional validity of the system.

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • daveD
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                      I think the pain will go away, Ron.  I had the same problem, but love them now.  My SJs were very painful at first, and it took a long time to get used to them.  Really flat shoes like my Danner's feel funny now.  Also, that quarter inch lower makes a huge difference.  I'm sure the pain would be greater with the standard height.  If Whites put in an insole layered with cork instead of hard leather insole, that might make them more comfortable out of the box.

                      As far as the usefulness of arch ease goes, I don't think it makes a difference one way or the other. There was definitely is a change in my foot, but I think it's like someone described above as using different muscles.

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                        men talk really  stop being a pussy its going to hurt really ill show you  a picture of my leg and feet hold on

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                          the scar and callouses on my lower leg are caused by

                          wesco jobmaster
                          wesco boss
                          whites smoke jumper

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                          • madmondayM
                            madmonday
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                            sh!t, not knocking anyone, but i'm sure you can pay for someone to bruise your feet & it would be alot cheaper than them boots. . . . well maybe not cheaper, but you will probably enjoy it more.

                            never got dudes with uncomfortable footwear (or tight clothes but i'll stay on footwear) shit the boots are beautiful but if they cause that i will pass

                            head high, middle finger higher

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                            • daveD
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                              I never got a bruise, but the kind of pain I'm taking about with White's is like what happens when you go from wearing running shoes for a long time to high tops.  Although I'm sure someone with flat feet would really have to struggle to make the SJ feel good.

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                              • Jordan23J
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                                Thx ronaldish!By the way they looking great with the RAW's!

                                AE

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                                  demonito
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                                  theres nothing wrong with the bruises man theyll go away and the come back. these are already callouses. from wearing real work boots for work

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                                  • ronaldlshR
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                                    Sorry demonito, but I think it's definitely not a pussy thing to do to get a pair of boots which are comfortable, and doesn't cause any pain…

                                    THE RAW WAR

                                    @ronaldlsh:

                                    > Just going to keep wearing IH.

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                                      demonito
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                                      yeah i know im just being macho but man ill tellyou  honestly its also in the leather you choose and how tight you tie your laces

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                                      • daveD
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                                        I wear my SJs to my IT job where the hardest thing I do all day is sit on my ass 😉

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                                        • Megatron1505M
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                                          The talk of the pain caused by these boots is perhaps making it seem more of an issue than it is. To be fair, I think that it can best be summed up by saying that if you have flat feet, these are probably not the boots for you, if you have a high arch they should be perfect, and if you have a normal arch then you may experience some pain, which will pass.

                                          Also, Ed is totally right about the leather and lacing making a huge difference.

                                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            Working in boots that hurt you after the initial sores caused by breaking them in is ridiculous… Think about your knees, feet, back and neck, guys!..

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