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    • Q
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      No leaking from Rolex, but my speculation is in no particular order: new movements for the subs, maybe a new Milgauss, but the Rolex Explorer II is in need of a ceramic bezel and the Air King is in no-mans land.

      Is anyone familiar with Seoul and watch shopping there? In particular: Shilla Dutyfree Main Store or Shinsegae Department Store.

      Her's and his from the other day:

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      • mclaincauseyM
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        @QuantumMechanic:

        No leaking from Rolex, but my speculation is in no particular order: new movements for the subs, maybe a new Milgauss, but the Rolex Explorer II is in need of a ceramic bezel and the Air King is in no-mans land.

        I wonder about that; the lack of a ceramic bezel helps segment the Explorer II from the GMT Master II, and the brushed inlaid metal bezel has always been a part of each reference (though the Daytona did go from finished steel to ceramic I suppose). I'm unsure if fixed versus rotating is enough of a product line differentiator for Rolex. If they add ceramic, I think they'll have to stay with the current movement instead of upgrading that to the new, 70 hour PR movement, perhaps with paraflex added (which is my very uneducated prediction). The way the newer movements have been propagated, perhaps that's the plan–they're so smart in how they maintain scarcity and desirability, rolling out features very slowly to market so that they can maintain constant buzz.

        Think it, be it.

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        • ChrisC
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          I don't entirely agree with the writer, but this is an interesting piece on why in house movements are so popular.

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          • Q
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            I read a little and stopped when I realized they use hidden text for their SEO. lol.

            @Chris:

            I don't entirely agree with the writer, but this is an interesting piece on why in house movements are so popular.

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            • ChrisC
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              How does that affect the content of the article?

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              • SeulS
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                @QuantumMechanic:

                lol.

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                • Q
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                  I hope I did not offend. In-house movements were adopted as a market differentiator and for brands to remain relevant…hello Panerai.

                  As to the article itself "Luxury Science" is hardly new, but it is to the watch industry.

                  @Chris:

                  How does that affect the content of the article?

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    In case you can't wait a day for the Rolex news…

                    http://rolexpassionreport.com/26810/rolex-and-tudor-2019-basel-world-news/

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • Q
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                      @mclaincausey you won the internet today🏆

                      @mclaincausey:

                      In case you can't wait a day for the Rolex news…

                      http://rolexpassionreport.com/26810/rolex-and-tudor-2019-basel-world-news/

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                      • GraemeG
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                        Patek have announced their new watches, most of which seem to be expensive iterations of existing models. But I do like the Calatrava Weekly Calendar, which has a steel case, and (for once) they've implemented hacking seconds on it.

                        More at Hodinkee. Unfortunately the price is CHF 29,500, so it's probably not happening. 🙂

                        Panerai have got a new Bronzo. @Anesthetist won't appreciate it, as the case is 47 mm!

                        I wonder if the Rolex link that @mclaincausey is complete. There's a teaser video of something gold with a fluted bezel on Twitter, which doesn't match anything in that article.

                        The Yachtmaster would certainly match the teaser, and if it's steel, it'll be the first time the Oysterflex has turned up on a non-precious metal watch.

                        @louisbosco will like the new Batman.

                        The Tudor US Marine is awesome. 😃

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          Who knows, could be total bullshit too. I agree (hope) that that isn't all that's coming. It seemed like there had to be an Explorer or Space Dweller reference based on that rocket in the teaser video.

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • GraemeG
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                            We'll know for sure sometime in the next 12 hours. 🙂

                            I'm still hoping for a new Milgauss.

                            I'm also looking forward to seeing what Omega have in the pipeline. They're running an event in Zurich, which started yesterday. I'm surprised that there haven't been any announcements.

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                            • JDelageJ
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                              I like the green Aquanaut, but I'd like it better in steel…

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                              • GraemeG
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                                Rolex and Tudor have unveiled their new models, and it's pretty much what @mclaincausey posted earlier. The Yacht Master is white gold, not steel.

                                No Milgauss. 😢

                                In fact, there are two stainless models: A new 36 mm Datejust, and the GMT BLNR "Batman" refresh.

                                The Black Bay P01 is the funky looking watch in the leaked catalogue. It's got a video of men doing manly things at sea and in helicopters.

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                                • JDelageJ
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                                  I like the crown position on the new BB. That makes a lot of sense.

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    Disappointing from Rolex/Tudor from my perspective. Never liked the YM line (few do), don't care for two tone, Batman is cool, no proliferation of their next gen movement into other lines.

                                    Datejust 1263XXX remain the most interesting to me.

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • GraemeG
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                                      The Zenith Defy Inventor, which is a production version of the Defy Lab from a year or two ago.

                                      It's got an 18 Hz oscillator, most watches top out at 3 or 4 Hz, and is probably going to be the most interesting watch released at Baselworld. Then again, with Rolex's efforts, that's not hard. 😉

                                      More at Monochrome.

                                      I like the Tudor P01 too @JDelage. But my tastes in watches aren't particularly Catholic!

                                      @mclaincausey, the 126200 is a 36 mm Datejust with a silver dial and the new 3235 movement. That's my pick of the new Rolex releases. You might be able to get one sometime before the heat death of the universe without going grey market too. 😛

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                                      • JDelageJ
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                                        The Tag Heuer Autavia collection is nice, esp. the bronze models…

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                                        • louisboscoL
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                                          @Graeme actually, i didn't like anything i've seen so far. the pepsi is still the goal… hearing rumours that they are discontinuing that black. which might work well for me

                                          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                          • mclaincauseyM
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                                            It's such an underwhelming Baselworld for Rolex (and for others) that I hope the focus is on production of existing watches.

                                            The YM revision is nice, but who asked for that? It's their least popular line. If they are seeking to breathe life into it, then a precious metal case doesn't seem like the way to do it. The Oysterflex bracelet is great to see, and I hope that it will proliferate to the Submariner and SD lines.

                                            Sea Dweller, a "tool watch," in two tones? The blog post I posted yesterday explained the historical context, but not sure I get that decision either.

                                            There do appear to be some new Roman numeral, unlumed dials (and with them unlumed hands) available in the Datejust line, and there are modernized movements in DJ and DD in 36 out as well, so that's good news for the ladies, those with smaller wrists, and those looking to have a very precious DJ that is as non-sports-watch as possible (e.g., fluted bezel, jubilee bracelet, unlumed Roman numeral dial). That to me is one reason DJ is the most interesting line, you can range from dress watch (perhaps even going further than my example with diamond indices and/or bezels) to something like a black or white index dial, smooth bezel, Oyster bracelet 41 for a sport watch, and what's in the case is robust enough to go either way.

                                            In two years I think Explorer II has its 50th anniversary. So, 3285 I hope will make it into that line, and maybe there will be some other changes to it. Perhaps then, NEXT year is when the Subs finally get the 32XX movements, as I'd assumed they would this year. Who knows with Rolex, but it was a disappointing Baselworld for them and Tudor (with its FUGLY diver) in my eyes.

                                            Think it, be it.

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