Runners

[goosehd]

@Jcaz6996 still quite a respectable time. How have you been feeling throughout the week? Any changes in stress levels, disruption in sleep patterns, or dietary changes?

I am constantly amazed at how day to day life can screw up the best laid plans and training.

I have been doing more weight training to build some strength and noticed it has affected my running. Push a little too hard in the weight room one day and run times suffer the next. Not enough sleep and everything suffers…

[Dmart]

@goosehd mindblowing….

[Jord]

@Jcaz6996 if it makes you feel any better, I could never imagine doing that in my life... and I would love to, so you're like a superhuman in my eyes!

Not sure if this is your first time running London but congrats either way, you've earned my respect!

[Nik]

Getting through those blocks takes way more effort than cruising around under 3 @Jcaz6996 so well done on that achievement

[Jcaz6996]

@goosehd I’ve been feeling good had a solid marathon build with weeks of 80 mile weeks plenty of long run MP workouts, did a 2 week taper . But the carb load got me first time doing that and according to ChatGPT i overloaded my gut so when I started running the blood has been drawn away from digestion to the working muscles because my body was under stress my HR spike within the first 3 mins to 174bpm then adding gels to the mix quickly shifted to cramps and then the stomach issues . When I eventually stopped to walk my HR was 185bpm MAX
Looking through my data I ran on that red line for 1hr 58mins crazy no wonder i felt like crap.
Feeling disappointed all that hard work I put in leading up to the marathon and for it to go like that ..

[Dmart]

@Jcaz6996 From my experience you really need to train your gut. Gradually. Practice it in training, especially at race pace efforts and train to gut to tolerate carbs. As for the carb load I go around 6-8g carbs/kg bodyweight 48h out to 10g carbs/kg bodyweight 24 hours out. Then again, I train carb loads as well.

[goosehd]

@Jcaz6996 I know it’s easy to look at what you could have done, but looking at what you did do is impressive as hell. You ran for 2 hours at max hr…the only way you did that is with the training up to that point.

Sounds like you have just about everything figured out and the next race will go much better.

I’m impressed and wish you the best…

[dinobarnesberlin]

@Jcaz6996 3:16 ?? I mean come on!! even with the cramps, etc. that is really good man.
for most hobby joggers getting a sub 4 would be a dream!

[Jcaz6996]

@Dmart yeah mate honestly didn’t know what I experienced was a possible outcome, definitely wish I practiced it in the build up.
Doing Valencia marathon in December so definitely not going to make the same mistake

[Nik]

I've started making my own home-brew of carb/electrolyte drink since most of my runs are over 90 mins now I have to eat on every single run

[Jcaz6996]

@dinobarnesberlin cheers .. I wasn’t bothered what the time was going to be just that I made it too the end after what I experienced it was by far the most brutal thing I’ve put myself through..

If I just ran and blew up because lack of fitness I would of been disappointed , but I know I’m capable of a a sub 2:56 I’ll give it another go in December Valencia Marathon

[Jcaz6996]

@Nik a mate of mine did that last year in a marathon build and run with a pack , but now has gone back to gels..

Nik how serious do you do a carb load ? Is that something you practiced beforehand?

[Dmart]

@Jcaz6996 Valencia is a fast course! Enjoy it

[Dmart]

@Nik intensity wise you spend the majority in the now called zone 2 I assume, or top end of zone 2? But yeah for 90‘+ I always fuel even when intensity is lower. How does your mix look like? Maltodextrin mainly? Do you never have solid fuel on your long runs ?