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shutoko

so i've been contemplating to buy this old (and fairly affordable) beast

any thoughts?to cop or not?

If the price is right you should grab it. My main camera is a Minolta XD which is the same body as the R4 – it's a great camera, well-built and compact. Only have one lens for it and that's my entire "system".

guillaume

@jacoavlu:

It was only about 5 years ago I discovered how easy and satisfying it was to develop my own black and white film. Just wish I had more time for it.

Tri-x souped in Rodinal, can't beat that for me.

If only Rodinal still existed….

dave

Rodinal is still available, albeit under different trade names. Here's one of them: http://www.adox.de/english/ADOLUX/ADOLUX/ADONAL/ADONAL.html

crisone

@jacoavlu:

Cris, you have any of the L primes?

I don't…..a 135 will be my next Prime though, if I don't spend it all here, haha.

Cris.

shutoko

@dave:

Rodinal is still available, albeit under different trade names. Here's one of them: http://www.adox.de/english/ADOLUX/ADOLUX/ADONAL/ADONAL.html

Agfa says R09 One Shot is the same formula as Rodinal but there seems to be a lot of internet debate about whether it's true. I want to like Rodinal but my results with it have been far too inconsistent because of its sensitivity to time/temp/agitation/etc.

loghill

@dizco:

so i've been contemplating to buy this old (and fairly affordable) beast

any thoughts?to cop or not?

I also have an R4 and I like it. Not that well built, electronics might fail (mine gets "stuck" once in awhile and has to be reseted by releasing the shutter mechanically) but if the price is right and you get it with a lens - go for it. If the body fails you can always keep the lens and go for an all mechanic Leicaflex SL - like I did.

jacoavlu

I believe the Adonal is Rodinal. Freestyle sells it, a few years ago they were the only place that still had Rodinal and I picked up enough to last me a long time, as long as it doesn't go sour.

Finn666

Some more shots…

dave

@shutoko:

@dave:

Rodinal is still available, albeit under different trade names. Here's one of them: http://www.adox.de/english/ADOLUX/ADOLUX/ADONAL/ADONAL.html

Agfa says R09 One Shot is the same formula as Rodinal but there seems to be a lot of internet debate about whether it's true. I want to like Rodinal but my results with it have been far too inconsistent because of its sensitivity to time/temp/agitation/etc.

I only used a very expired sample of the Agfa stuff once for some test shots, but the results were amazing. I don't think I have any scans of those negs. The professor of the photo class I was taking was mad that I used his Rodinal supply for throw away shots

jacoavlu

I will find some of my agfa rodinal negs

crisone

Some pics I shot in 2009, San Diego Zoo, Canon Rebel Xti, Tamron 28-75:

Cris.

jacoavlu

this was shot on Tri-x at about iso 250 and developed in Rodinal, then scanned. The combo can be a little harsh when it comes to detail in faces, etc, but I like it a lot

here's another

Beatle

like the first one…

ancient point and shoot..

dave

@jacoavlu:

this was shot on Tri-x at about iso 250 and developed in Rodinal, then scanned. The combo can be a little harsh when it comes to detail in faces, etc, but I like it a lot

here's another

Nice shots! Love how you can see the grain even at this resolution on the top of first shot. I wish my parents had baby shots of me like that. I'd show them off for sure.

jacoavlu

thanks Dave
yes, there's just something special about silver halide
here's Tri-X in D76, some more of that grain

guillaume

@shutoko:

@dave:

Rodinal is still available, albeit under different trade names. Here's one of them: http://www.adox.de/english/ADOLUX/ADOLUX/ADONAL/ADONAL.html

Agfa says R09 One Shot is the same formula as Rodinal but there seems to be a lot of internet debate about whether it's true. I want to like Rodinal but my results with it have been far too inconsistent because of its sensitivity to time/temp/agitation/etc.

my point exactly… im having people coming in offering 40 to 50 bucks for whatever we have left of rodinal but my boss wont sell it because he wants to keep it for his friends

AFTRMTH

Prime lens or nothing.. im anti zoom then again, only dogs get to enjoy my camera equipment

crisone

^ Word…I love both, even though I'd love to use a Prime primarily, but when my wife would use my Cam, she'd rather use standard.

My latest shot, we bought a new Family Vehicle yesterday, so while it's still new, I snapped a pic:

5D, 16-35L.

Cris.

jacoavlu

Congrats Cris

That's funny, was just out with the family looking at minivans.

Liked the Toyota and the Honda too.

guillaume

@AFTRMTH:

Prime lens or nothing.. im anti zoom then again, only dogs get to enjoy my camera equipment

+1 and all my colleagues who i work with agree

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