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    • HemiH
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      There is no such thing as second best in the UFC! You're either the champ or you're not… the rest is irrelevant.  Steve De Silva (BJ Penn's original BBJ Coach) use to tell me this and I think most fighters would agree.

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      • LuciferL
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        @Hemi:

        There is no such thing as second best in the UFC! You're either the champ or you're not… the rest is irrelevant.  Steve De Silva (BJ Penn's original BBJ Coach) use to tell me this and I think most fighters would agree.

        Well, I get what they and you are trying to say, but there are rankings, and I think most people would agree that if not second best, Sonnen is top 2-3 as the division stands today. Neither Boetsch or Lombard impressed in their last fight, and who else is there? Bisping? Already beaten by Sonnen, not many other contenders that can match Sonnen (nor Silva, of course).

        Seize the day and don't you cry.

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        • HemiH
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          Don't get me wrong Sonnen has done well, but the champion is No.1 and after that you're either the challenger, up & coming or on the way out… Sonnen is no longer in the first two categories regardless of where you rank him.  I reckon Silva will be beaten by time and probably just retire, what do you think?

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          • LuciferL
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            @Hemi:

            Don't get me wrong Sonnen has done well, but the champion is No.1 and after that you're either the challenger, up & coming or on the way out… Sonnen is no longer in the first two categories regardless of where you rank him.  I reckon Silva will be beaten by time and probably retire undefeated, what do you think?

            Not very easy to say, I can't really see anyone taking him on realistically at this point. There is talk about a mathcup with both Diaz and GSP at a catchweight, and I can see both those fights go either way, especially GSP which stylistically is similar to Sonnen, but also has amazing GnP. Not sure if Diaz would fare as well though, he is a great striker, but relies on volume, rather than solid single hits, and may face some very harsh counter punching. So of those two matchup, I think the only realistic one is GSP.

            I have heard some rumors about Alexander Gustavson dropping down a weight class and giving it a go, but I think he would run out of time with fighting other contenders before Silva retires..

            Other than that.. Hm, Gegard Mousasi would be a candidate when he is done doing boxing in the olympics, he is amaizing on his feet with pin point accuracy and really heavy hands and he fights well off his back, but I suspect Silvas bjj might prove to bee a few notches too good if Silva takes him down.

            Seize the day and don't you cry.

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            • natehateN
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              anyone here do any martial arts training?

              don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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              • HemiH
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                BJJ

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                • LuciferL
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                  Submission and some thai here.

                  Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                  • natehateN
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                    nice
                    ive done a couple classes and a seminar on bjj
                    but i train muay thai
                    just passed my test from beginner to advanced class this week

                    don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                    • bagley920B
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                      Doesn't seem to be much in my area. Anyone have a website or database to look them up?

                      If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                      • natehateN
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                        just google what your looking for in your area
                        you might have to drive a bit
                        i drive about 25 minutes to my thai club

                        don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                        • bagley920B
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                          yeah, that's what I was afraid of

                          If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                          • bagley920B
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                            Watching the UFC 150 prelims right now, who you guys got in the main fights?

                            I'm going with Benson and the Cowboy

                            If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                            • natehateN
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                              i had cowboy and edgar

                              don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                              • natehateN
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                                Hendo or jones? I want hendo to win it so bad I just doubt he will

                                don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                • bagley920B
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                                  If I was betting I'd put my money on Jones but he's become quite the balloon head so my heart says Hendo

                                  If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                  • natehateN
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                                    Yeah I can't stand jones. Something about him makes me hate him. But damn he's good. Hope he moves to heavy weight soon

                                    don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                    • bagley920B
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                                      Jon Jones is officially a bitch! Hendo is out, Jones refused to fight Sonnen so they had to cancel the whole event. What a joke of a champion!

                                      If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                      • natehateN
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                                        yeah see told you i hated that guy
                                        he turned down to middle weights
                                        they offered him weidman too and he said no
                                        jon jones aint shit

                                        don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                        • daynymD
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                                          anyone looking forward gsp's return fight? I hope condit prepares well…

                                          why so serious?

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                                          • bagley920B
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                                            Depends which GSP shows up, the boring one we saw before he got hurt or the one we saw before he won the title. I much prefer the old GSP to the Jon Fitch-esque one of recent memory.

                                            If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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