Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural
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Fellow Pale Riders, I tried a coat of Pecards. Highly, highly, strongly, strongly recommend it. Shirt instantly turned supple. It does add about a shade or two of color and some shininess. The latter will dull out in a few days from my other experiences applying to various jackets.
Besides the aesthetics, I don't know how to describe it, but it just made wearing the shirt a lot more comfortable. I know it didn't "stretch" the leather, but it gave it some give. I mentioned before, the main note is about the areas of the shirt where the leather is doubled up (placket, pockets, etc.), I can now feel and see it easing better in those areas.
Big thumbs up.
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This looks fantastic And the fit is on point if you ask me.
thanks, brother. Just need to stay clear of any egg nog and treats for the next couple months
I was a little worried when I first got it, but with a few wears it started easing some. I'm still getting one button pop, the one right below the pockets. But that's if I'm really trying to push the extreme of range. It's definitely more pinched in that area, but again, I think it's mostly the thicker leather across the bottom of the chest that's not flexing. 10 wears + the pecards made a huge difference. Worst case, just need a hair or two more with future wears, and I won't even fuss about it. Definite first world problems here.
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The shirt is definitely starting to settle and I’m loving the fit more and more. Excited for the shoulder area to soften up a bit. They look a bit better when the sleeves are unbuttoned but my hope is to wear the shirt with the sleeves buttoned. Still debating on breaking it in or just growing 25 inch pythons on both arms.
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The shirt is definitely starting to settle and I’m loving the fit more and more. Excited for the shoulder area to soften up a bit. They look a bit better when the sleeves are unbuttoned but my hope is to wear the shirt with the sleeves buttoned. Still debating on breaking it in or just growing 25 inch pythons on both arms.
That looks perfect
I have a medium, wish I woulda went largeSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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@Alex Oh awesome, cheers!
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@Alex hey Alex wondering if you could define relatively. We looking at 2023 summer.. fall? Thanks!
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@coldcashandcolderhearts hopefully sooner than that, but it’s hard to say for sure.
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Thanks. Looking forward to the next drop!
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I just pulled the trigger on that mostly new, unworn Large on Grailed. Anyone have recent worn-in pics? Especially interested to see an update from @weegeebee1
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@Autorotate right on, brother. Congrats. The weather is slowly changing here and this shirt will get heavy rotation probably Apr - May. I keep waiting for it to soften up, but I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. The Pecards helped a lot with the touch feel, but the leather doesn't drape much. But color evo has been spectacular. Here's my IG stuff on it from a few weeks back:
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That thing looks like it was made for you @weegeebee1
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@weegeebee1 wish mine looked as good.
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@louisbosco you looking for darker color or don't like the fit of yours? The color will come with time. hang in the sun once we get to warmer temps and it literally will change overnight. A good 4-5 hours on each side is enough to get it going.
the fit is tricky, I won't lie. We'll see how it turns out after a couple good wearing seasons. If it softens up to what I'm used to with most veg tan leathers, I think it'll be top 10 things ever LOL. But right now, it's very turtle shell like. There's very little room for margin between too tight, just right, and too big. Compared to some of my UHF where the ptp can vary by a full inch and I'm good, this has got like maybe .5 inch max range to fit right.
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Treated or untreated, these shirts look amazing!
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@weegeebee1 don't get me wrong, I love mine to bits. I just think mine has evolved in a very different way compared to yours.
I use mine a lot for riding, so they do occasionally come into contact with rain. that's also why I think it hasn't got the sheen and shine as compared to yours.
Also, riding in a tropical climate, the sweat also plays a huge part in the evolution along the collars. it tends to be darker around those contact points. but just like you, I'm still waiting for it to soften up. -
Has anyone soaked this jacket? I’ve been doing research (Fedora Lounge) on what guys will do with vintage and repro horse jackets. I was surprised to learn that this is common. Machine washes and Dryer cycles!!! Whoa!!
I spoke to another forum member here who advised against getting this shirt wet. Mostly to do with the stitching construction (puckering) and possible uneven stretching and drying of the shirt.In an effort to get a custom, form fit - and to soften the leather and encourage draping, my vision:
-using a hair drier, hand apply Pecards to exterior of the jacket. Liberal amounts. Wear for a full day.
-cold soak jacket. Just to inundate with water.
-drain tub water, roll shirt up in a towel to remove excess water.
-immediately wear the shirt, with a thin long sleeve t shirt. Wear until dry. Hike, calisthenics, general movement.
-paying attention to sleeve length, placket puckering, collar shape, etc. stretching, pulling… whatever it takes.Here’s my rationale…. If this jacket is uncomfortable I just will not wear it.
Am I nuts? Impatient? Will I ruin the jacket? Or will this yield the potential of this shirt as the most spectacular, fitted, second skin garment?
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In theory the process you describe accelerates what would happen over time with wear. Rain, activity, etc. I personally appreciate these sorts of processes and think it is cool to play around with the garments to test what they do. My vote is to go for it and document the results. But then I have a brand new pair of 21oz denim in the wash right now with some grey dye, and I've also bleached Iron Heart before with results I am very happy with, so I am probably an outlier.
