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IH-888-XHSib - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Ind/blk

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    Matty123
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 4 Apr 2017

    I’d go bigger as I’m a growing boy… errr

    Maybe so. Maybe not

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      Paul9221
      啓蒙家
      Joined: 19 Apr 2011

      Is a soak recommended on these?  You could always just cold soak, right?

      Blanket-line all the things!!!

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        Matty123
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 4 Apr 2017

        I soaked and I got a decent amount of shrink. I recommend a soak for sure. @Sam will
        You guys be posting shrink measurements?

        Maybe so. Maybe not

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          Filthy2123ozjunkie
          見習いボスー
          Joined: 21 Jan 2013

          For me I have gotten over the desire to have skin tight jeans. Also because I sit for very long periods of time flying and driving I prefer the extra room. There is like quite a differential between standing and sitting. The jeans appear relaxed fit when I stand and pretty snug when I sit (in the knee and thighs).

          Luckily for me thay these seem to be a little on the tight side with some relaxation after the stretch.

          I have not had very much luck ever sizing down on a pair of XHS. You probably remember that pair I blew the button off and fixed with the penny.

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            Filthy2123ozjunkie
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            @Paul9221:

            Is a soak recommended on these?  You could always just cold soak, right?

            Unless you plan on never ever machine washing these a soak in hot water is good. This is to shrink enough to avoid fade shifting. Also because of the snug fit it is possible for the honeycomb creases to split on the back on the knees.

            I also don't soak the waist as much as possible. So I don't mess my patch up in the hot water. I just put a hanger through the top button hole to keep the patch out of the hot water.

            Before I soak I like to turn them inside out first, dampen them along the inseam and selvedge with a spray bottle, then iron the heavy creases that are along the selvage and inseam. I put an old t shirt between the iron and the denim. This is because the hot iron puts a shine on the surface or the denim.

            Then I soak them in the hottest water possible (even turn the water heater up or use boiling water), let them dry, then repeat the entire process. I do it twice just to make sure I get as much shrink as possible.

            After that initial 2 soaks I just use my controversial washing method when they are dirty. I avoid ever putting them in the machine… but this is just a compromise between never washing and machine washing.

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              Paul9221
              啓蒙家
              Joined: 19 Apr 2011

              That's quite the process, Filthy!

              I don't think I've ever machine-washed a pair of IH. Always soak (hot if I want some shrink, cold if I don't) with detergent in the tub, inside-out, with some minor agitation, then drip-dry.

              I don't mind soaking but unless it's unsanforized, unwashed, or raw, I usually buy to size.  Is that not gonna work with these?  They're sanforized and one-wash, right?

              Blanket-line all the things!!!

              last edited by 29 Jan 2019, 19:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                Filthy2123ozjunkie
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                Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                According to the product page, they are sanforized and not washed. (555 XHSib) They will shrink .5 inch in all directions and then stretch back out.

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                  Filthy2123ozjunkie
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                  Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                  Also, I forgot to mention that another reason I like the hot soak is because it seems to make the denim pucker up and get thicker.

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                    Paul9221
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                    @Filthy:

                    According to the product page, they are sanforized and not washed. (555 XHSib) They will shrink .5 inch in all directions and then stretch back out.

                    Oh shoot, I'm glad you told me that!

                    How much shrink you think you'd get in the thigh after a soak on these?

                    Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                      Filthy2123ozjunkie
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                      Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                      A half of an inch. But they stretch back out in a few hours to day depending on how tight they are in the first place.

                      This is more eloquently stated on the product page:

                      Sanforized, but unwashed - expect some shrinkage, possibly one inch in both the waist and the inseam. The waist will stretch out to approximately pre-soak/wash size, the inseam will not stretch back. All dimensions will shrink proportionately to the waist and inseam, those that are put under pressure will have a tendency to stretch back out, those that aren’t will not

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                        Paul9221
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                        Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                        @Filthy:

                        A half of an inch. But they stretch back out in a few hours to day depending on how tight they are in the first place.

                        Dang, half an inch in waist and thigh will make the 32 perfect for me!

                        I'm so glad you told me these are unwashed lol. I'd like to think I would've caught it before pulling the trigger but thanks nonetheless!

                        Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                          Paul9221
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                          Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                          How long do you usually soak using your method, Filthy?

                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                            Filthy2123ozjunkie
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                            Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                            @Paul9221:

                            How long do you usually soak using your method, Filthy?

                            until the water goes from hot to cold about 45 minutes to an hour. Also I edited the above post so please carefully read the quotation.

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                              Paul9221
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                              I saw the edit, thanks!

                              I've had bad experience getting waist shrinkage on other brand denim before.  Like barely any shrinkage.  I'm going to risk it for these.

                              Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                Filthy2123ozjunkie
                                見習いボスー
                                Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                                @Paul9221:

                                I saw the edit, thanks!

                                I've had bad experience getting waist shrinkage on other brand denim before.  Like barely any shrinkage.  I'm going to risk it for these.

                                This is something I have never really gotten about shrinking. It always stretches back out and then some. Like for example my 888-nt were a 38.5 pre-soak shrank to a 38. But after wearing them for a time they stretched to a 39.

                                Trying to soak to make the wasist fit never works. Like I even put my one pair of 634 XHS on a hot 2 hour wash and then put them in the dryer. Then were good for about a day then the waist was back to normal again.

                                My advice is to aim for a tighter fit and the payoff will be worth it in the end.

                                Edit: maybe the more knowledgeable forum members can chime in?

                                I've got to get a taxi to the airport. See ya.

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                                  Paul9221
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                                  Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                  Thanks for all of the tips, Filthy!  Have a good flight!

                                  I'm looking for a post-soak waist/thigh of about 31.5-32/12.3.  If I go with the tag 32 and can get 0.5 - 1 inch off on the waist and 0.5 inch off on the thigh (post-soak), I'll be extremely happy.  But if that thigh stays at 12.8, they won't look good 😕

                                  Any advice would be very welcomed!

                                  Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                    Filthy2123ozjunkie
                                    見習いボスー
                                    Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                                    Then you would want to go with a tagged size 31 imho. It will be an arduous break in. But the fit will pay off in the end. Unless you think that you'll be gaining any weight in the near future. Then I'd go with a 32.

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                                      Paul9221
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                                      Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                      @Filthy:

                                      Then you would want to go with a tagged size 31 imho. It will be an arduous break in. But the fit will pay off in the end. Unless you think that you'll be gaining any weight in the near future. Then I'd go with a 32.

                                      Hey, you're still around! 🙂

                                      Thanks again for all of the tips/advice, man!  I'm just thinking, dang, if I get the 31 and the waist drops from 31.3 to like waist down to 30.25" after a soak, I am absolutely not going to be able to button these.  If I take the 32 and get the waist down to a 31.25, I can maybe button that.

                                      If I were to get the 32, which at current measurement is just a little too big, shrinking it down to where it's a little too tight, and then stretching it out might make more sense, but I'm just not certain on that amount of shrink.  I'd be a little disappointed if I go with the 32 and the waist goes down from like 32.4 to 32 and the thigh just drops down from 12.8 to 12.5, but at least those dimensions, while a little looser than I'd like, would be wearable.

                                      Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                        neph93
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                                        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                        Paul your best bet us to take starting measurements as rough final measurements. Wherever they start is about where they’ll end after shrinking and stretching. In the case of the XHS they may go a little further.

                                        Btw, not ignoring your pm. Been a busy one though 😉

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                                        • Virginia Woolf
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                                          Paul9221
                                          啓蒙家
                                          Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                          @neph93:

                                          @Matty123:

                                          I have these in 36 and 888NT In 38 and I feel exactly like u said

                                          I have a problem there (theoretical only of course as I’m not copping [emoji22]) I could go for a W33 without a soak and the measurements would be perfect. With a soak and I may be struggling with the waist. A W34 would be a little big even with a soak… What to (theoretically) do?

                                          Heya Reuben, all theoretical, of course 😃 but I assume that you've gone with sanforized but unwashed before.  How much shrink do you end up seeing in the waist/thigh?  Admittedly, I am curious for my own measurement planning, but maybe talking it out will help us help you realize your (theoretically) perfect measurements 🙂

                                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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