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IHSH-218-BLK - 12oz Selvedge Denim Western Shirt "The Johnny Cash III" - Superblack

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    bigwhat62
    Joined: 13 Feb 2021

    @neph93:

    @bigwhat62:

    This Johnny Cash shirt or a black heavyweight kersey in black?  And why?  Both look great, one heavier than the other. But what else am I missing.

    They are very different fabrics. The JC is fairly stiff shirting denim, that will break in with time. It has a flat smooth hand and will develop meaningful creases at the elbows. The kersey, despite its weight is a very soft, pliable material with a little stretch. It has diagonal ribs in it, almost like corduroy. It feels almost luxurious, while the JC is more rugged.

    Without checking the compare function you may also find sizing slightly different. If memory serves, the JC is a little longer in the arms and body.

    Both are glorious, but the Kersey fabric is a personal favourite.

    Thanks for this input. Size wise the XXL is my size in both shirts and the fit would be very similar.  Will fading be different between the two?  I can see JC as a year round shirt, 12 oz isnt the heaviest of materials and I can tolerate it during the hot summers.  The Kersey I find would be best more so for colder times.

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      neph93
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      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

      @bigwhat62:

      Thanks for this input. Size wise the XXL is my size in both shirts and the fit would be very similar.  Will fading be different between the two?  I can see JC as a year round shirt, 12 oz isnt the heaviest of materials and I can tolerate it during the hot summers.  The Kersey I find would be best more so for colder times.

      Both shirts are so called «Superblack». That is to say they are dyed with reactive pigment so fades happen very, very slowly, if at all. Your looking more at aging gracefully than «sick fadez».

      If you want a black western shirt that fades, look at the IHSH-33-BLK or the IHSH-62-BLK.

      As for temps, despite the weight difference, the 14oz Kersey is an open weave so it breathes very well. The JC is denim, and a tight weave. I don’t think you’d notice much difference.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

      • Virginia Woolf
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        bigwhat62
        Joined: 13 Feb 2021

        @neph93:

        @bigwhat62:

        Thanks for this input. Size wise the XXL is my size in both shirts and the fit would be very similar.  Will fading be different between the two?  I can see JC as a year round shirt, 12 oz isnt the heaviest of materials and I can tolerate it during the hot summers.  The Kersey I find would be best more so for colder times.

        Both shirts are so called «Superblack». That is to say they are dyed with reactive pigment so fades happen very, very slowly, if at all. Your looking more at aging gracefully than «sick fadez».

        If you want a black western shirt that fades, look at the IHSH-33-BLK or the IHSH-62-BLK.

        As for temps, despite the weight difference, the 14oz Kersey is an open weave so it breathes very well. The JC is denim, and a tight weave. I don’t think you’d notice much difference.

        Honestly super black is perfect for me. But the -33 and -62 you shared here are very nice too.  Those will end up in my closet with time.  Thanks again

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          neph93
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          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          @bigwhat62:

          Honestly super black is perfect for me…

          I’m a big fan myself. Best of luck with the purchase.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
          last edited by 18 May 2021, 12:54 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Pipeboss713
            Haraki san Expert
            Joined: 4 Jan 2021

            Looking for a JC.
            I’m 5’ 10” 165 lbs
            Slim build w/ 17.5 shoulders
            Med or large?

            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

            “He who guards his mouth, protects his life”
            Proverbs 13:3

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              neph93
              見習いボス
              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              Hard to say without measurements. I suspect a medium, but you should measure an IH shirt you have and that fits you and go from there.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
              last edited by 14 Jul 2021, 06:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                xtcclassic
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 13 Feb 2012

                I agree with @neph93 on the medium. You’re basically the exact same size I am right now and a large would be too big (at least they are for me).

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                  AdamJ
                  IHUK Crew
                  Joined: 29 Jun 2017

                  RESTOCK ON MONDAY 9TH OF AUGUST AT 1600BST

                  The devil is in the detail..

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                    AdamJ
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 29 Jun 2017

                    RESTOCK

                    The devil is in the detail..

                    last edited by 9 Aug 2021, 14:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      acboston
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 21 Aug 2020

                      Thinking I may grab one of these as a 40th bday to myself.

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                      last edited by 9 Aug 2021, 18:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Dmart
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 24 Mar 2021

                        It really looks great and I was actually hoping it won't restock soon. Hopefully they will be sold out again soon. They can restock end of the year again  😃

                        last edited by 9 Aug 2021, 19:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • KasiK
                          Kasi
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                          Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                          Are you psychic…

                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                          The world's insane
                          While you drink champagne
                          And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                          • atm23A
                            atm23
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 30 Apr 2014

                            Mine will be coming on Monday! Excited to beat this shirt up through the fall and winter!

                            last edited by 14 Aug 2021, 01:29 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • jerkulesJ
                              jerkules
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 26 Aug 2018

                              Nice ebay find, near mint. Plan to offset any savings I made by pimping with a GA snap in the near future. Not sure whether to pimp top or second button…

                              last edited by 8 Nov 2021, 14:01 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • jerkulesJ
                                jerkules
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 26 Aug 2018

                                Man sorry for the dusty mirror, sack the cleaner etc.

                                Edit: and apologies for the skew-whiff collar. I am merely a mouse amongst men in this forum 😂

                                last edited by 11 Aug 2021, 14:23 8 Nov 2021, 14:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • jerkulesJ
                                  jerkules
                                  啓蒙家
                                  Joined: 26 Aug 2018

                                  Warm washed this shirt and it tightened up a little. Very slight fading too, which is always a plus. What a gorgeous denim this is. It has a lot of character for a black fabric.

                                  last edited by 23 Nov 2021, 18:21 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    hongstein
                                    Joined: 14 Oct 2013

                                    Holy smokes, I haven't logged on here since 2013! I am wearing the IHSH-218 in a size medium after a warm wash and it fits perfectly. It was a touch roomy pre-wash, but it snugged up and the length on the sleeves came down so it fits perfectly now.

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                                      neph93
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                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      @hongstein:

                                      Holy smokes, I haven't logged on here since 2013! I am wearing the IHSH-218 in a size medium after a warm wash and it fits perfectly.

                                      Welcome back… nice shirt too.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
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                                      • jtbel1988J
                                        jtbel1988
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 30 Mar 2021

                                        I've been searching for size XL for a long time and pulled the trigger when one become available on the RE-Loved page at a nice discount.

                                        Something about this black denim is magical. Every time I look at different areas I notice something unique.

                                        I'll be enjoying this one all winter long.

                                        last edited by 23 Dec 2021, 16:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Joe_M
                                          Joined: 30 Jun 2021

                                          I have what may be a dumb question but I'm good with that.  So I think I read somewhere at some point that the 218 was made using the SBG process, would the sulphur dyed warp yarns then produce a chemical smell or "that sulphur smell"?  I received a 218 in the mail today and this bad boy stinks.

                                          last edited by 28 Dec 2021, 02:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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