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      jacoavlu
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      The Leica P&S cameras are pretty much rebadged Panasonics. As such, you pay a premium for the red dot.

      Ricoh makes great compacts.

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        @loghill:

        @FOXY:

        On a related topic: any opinions in regards to Leica X-1?
        (Was playing around with it in the stores today…)

        I'm really a Leica-man myself, but didn't like the X1 at all. I tried it briefly, a guy who bought my M8 was offering it to me as a trade. Instead I went for the Ricoh GXR and couldn't be happier with it.

        will look into this - sounds promising.

        (I used to be a Rollei-man back in the day until my Rollei 35 broke and I gave up. now, I am at the point where I want to pick it up again - could/should get my Rollei's fixed and look into digital a bit more seriously, but a Leica M8 or M9 is way too much…)

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        • FOXYF
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          @jacoavlu:

          The Leica P&S cameras are pretty much rebadged Panasonics. As such, you pay a premium for the red dot.

          Ricoh makes great compacts.

          are you sure about X-1 being a rebadged Panasonics?
          (regarding Leica D-Lux and V-Lux 20 you should be right…)

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            @FOXY:

            @jacoavlu:

            The Leica P&S cameras are pretty much rebadged Panasonics. As such, you pay a premium for the red dot.

            Ricoh makes great compacts.

            are you sure about X-1 being a rebadged Panasonics?
            (regarding Leica D-Lux and V-Lux 20 you should be right…)

            nope, X1 is made in germany and it's 100% leica's design (AFAIK)

            it's not a jeans, it's an iron heart

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              The X1 may not have a Pana counterpart. I haven't looked into it I'm sure it's a nice camera, just as the Leica/Pana cameras are nice too - I own one.

              I just wouldn't put too much value on the Leica name when it comes to a digital (non-M mount) camera.

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                @dizco:

                @FOXY:

                @jacoavlu:

                The Leica P&S cameras are pretty much rebadged Panasonics. As such, you pay a premium for the red dot.

                Ricoh makes great compacts.

                are you sure about X-1 being a rebadged Panasonics?
                (regarding Leica D-Lux and V-Lux 20 you should be right…)

                nope, X1 is made in germany and it's 100% leica's design (AFAIK)

                The sensor at least is made by Sony.

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                  @shutoko:

                  @dizco:

                  @FOXY:

                  @jacoavlu:

                  The Leica P&S cameras are pretty much rebadged Panasonics. As such, you pay a premium for the red dot.

                  Ricoh makes great compacts.

                  are you sure about X-1 being a rebadged Panasonics?
                  (regarding Leica D-Lux and V-Lux 20 you should be right…)

                  nope, X1 is made in germany and it's 100% leica's design (AFAIK)

                  The sensor at least is made by Sony.

                  Yes, and the M8 and M9 use Kodak sensors. It would be impossible to such a small manufacturer to put out their own sensors.

                  X1 is indeed a real Leica, made in Germany. But still not worth the money, I think.

                  http://havaintoja.tumblr.com/

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                    Postman just brought this:

                    http://havaintoja.tumblr.com/

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                      jacoavlu
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                      as long as we're sharing…

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                        as long as we're sharing…

                        lovely

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                          thanks

                          and for more tele work, I like these 2

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                            noooo. for tele photo work use your legs.

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                              Understood.
                              What's that saying, if your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough?
                              When I said tele, suppose I should have said candid portrait.
                              Love the bokeh the 85/2 can make, love it with my kids, not too tight but don't have to be in their face. And the lens is very compact, not much bigger than a 50 Summicron.
                              The combo of an M + 35mm and SLR + 85mm handles everything.

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                                Amazing Leica back there!

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                                  @jacoavlu:

                                  as long as we're sharing…

                                  What a beauty. Love the brassing!

                                  Since I sold my M8, this has been my everyday-camera:

                                  http://havaintoja.tumblr.com/

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                                    I'll guess I have to wake up these 2 beauties from their spell of ten years…

                                    gotta go and get them fixed again.

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                                      loghill - like that M6, and the 50 DR is a great lens. superb on b&w.
                                      foxy - a nice pair you got there, I had a 35 SE once, had fun with it, still can't believe how compact those old Rollei's are

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                                        today's favourite:

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                                          @jacoavlu:

                                          …
                                          foxy - a nice pair you got there, I had a 35 SE once, had fun with it, still can't believe how compact those old Rollei's are

                                          Thanks!
                                          They were pretty much all I ever needed before digital came along. Way back then I even did some of the lab work myself…

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                                            It was only about 5 years ago I discovered how easy and satisfying it was to develop my own black and white film. Just wish I had more time for it.

                                            Tri-x souped in Rodinal, can't beat that for me.

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