Runners
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@BloodnThunder True, a few years ago when I was mtbing a lot more, I broke 3 helmets in less than a year. It’s taken some time to get back and I am definitely more tentative now. The last one of those was so bad that I considered quitting. Glad I didn’t though. It’s a lot of fun!
@Matty123 the only plain colored dirty girls in existence! All of mine are loud. Their gaiters are the best!
I know. I regret not going Loud. I will in the next pair! For sure
So, plantar fasciitis is gone… shin splints are here!
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That sucks @neversummer .
As for me, I'm 2.5 weeks out from Chicago. I think I'll be ready for a PR. Just have to execute on race day!
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Woot! I’ll be out there. Will you be the guy Rupp and Farah are chasing?
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Woot! I’ll be out there. Will you be the guy Rupp and Farah are chasing?
Haha, sadly, that is not me.
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@cander49 Thanks, it’s been a bummer. Also missing the fall hiking/mountain running season.
You’ve been looking FAST, what is your current pr and what are you hoping for? It’ll be interesting to see how the different approach to training this year has worked for you.
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Thanks. PR is 2:37:45. The obvious goal is sub-6:00 pace because my PR is 6:01 pace. I think taking off more than that is possible, but we'll see. I'm at that point where I'm not able to do much more quality work with only 2 weeks left, so just one more workout this week, then time to rest up, then we'll see where the chips lie!
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^ My coach in college used to say, "the hay is in the barn". Two weeks out from a marathon is tough because there is basically nothing you can do to make yourself more fit but a ton you can do to sabotage yourself.
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Words of wisdom! The last week of a taper is rough.
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@cander49 looks like PR weather should be low 40’s to start and top in the low 50’s with some cloud cover.
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Thanks, yeah, temps are looking great. I'm a bit concerned with wind, but hopefully it won't be too bad!
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Sending vibes to make sure it’s all at your back.
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Kipchoge does it! 1:59:40. Impressive effort!
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1:59 Challenge for anyone interested. Pretty incredible regardless of the controlled scenario.
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@BloodnThunder think we will see him go sub 2 at a sanctioned race? The mental barrier has been broken…
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@BloodnThunder think we will see him go sub 2 at a sanctioned race? The mental barrier has been broken…
I don’t think he’ll quite get there. You’d basically have to get him and Kenenisa Bekele to agree to work together for 41 out of 42k before actually racing each other, build a field of world class rabbits that can take both of them through at least 35-37K at sub two pace, and have perfect conditions weather wise on race day.
Based on what the organizers have determined and used for the two attempts a race like Berlin would have to have at least five rabbits able to run sub 2 pace for a roughly an hour and 45 minutes. The odds that five rabbits would even have good enough of a day to hold that pace for that long is really slim. Then you have to bank on your two racers being able to hold it for another 14ish minutes while not executing any race tactics until the last 2.5 minutes. One surge with 5k to go could blow it for both of them.
I think that’s the beauty of the feat at this point though. Only one man in history has been able to achieve it even under conditions not WR ratifiable. It gives it a bit of a superhuman quality.
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Good points. While he is ‘only’ 1:40 off, that’s a lot of time to take out in reality.
Saw the female world record was set this weekend as well at Chicago. @cander49 has now run two races where a wr was set, so he must be the X factor.
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That women's WR came as way more of a shock to me than the sub 2 by Kipchoge. It had been totally untouchable for over 16 years and then all of a sudden, smashed. Unfortunately, it makes me very skeptical of the legitimacy.
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Where do you think the failure is? Doping?
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Yes. Almost three years ago to the day her Marathon PR was 2:24:45, which is world class for a female. When an athlete is already an elite a 10+ minute improvement is really just not feasible. Last year at Chicago she 'only' ran 2:18.35 so In a year she improved 4.5 minutes. In today's day and age there is really only one explanation for that type of gain.
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Interesting. I’ve just looked at some progression on Wikipedia- her previous pr was set in April at London. In 6 months she took out 4:16. By comparison, it took Kipchoge 5 years+ to take out 3:51 from his first marathon in 2013 to the current wr. His progression to the wr certainly looks more organic, with improvement in seconds, while she has tended to make huge leaps. Her first was 2:47:59 in November 2015 (maybe an outlier?), so she’s taken out over 30 minutes in 4 years. If you discount that, 10+ minutes in three years seems like a lot.
I was thinking today of Lance Armstrong constantly repeating that he’d never tested positive as proof he wasn’t doping. We all know how that went. I’d like to think we are in a new era, but maybe it’s a new era of better/undetectable drugs or regimen. Thinking about Balco and Barry Bonds, he didn’t test positive because no one knew the drugs he was taking even existed. And heck, people who are masters level cat 3 have been caught doping to win local races…
I’d have to guess it’s rampant in ultra running. No governing body, no out of competition testing, no real testing except at certain races. I read an article somewhere where Sage Canaday said you wouldn’t even have to be careful or microdose. Just stop so your body flushes everything out if you’re doing a race where you might be tested.
