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    • Matty123M
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      Anybody have any recovery techniques for ITBS? IT band syndrome?

      Maybe so. Maybe not

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      • nurunuruN
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        @Matty123:

        Anybody have any recovery techniques for ITBS? IT band syndrome?

        Do you already roll out your legs?  I've never had ITBS, specifically, but back when I was marathon training, my legs complained a bit.  Brutalising my legs to the point of screaming agony with a large, hard foam roller for the thighs and 'The Stick' roller for below the knees really seemed to help.  As inferred, it is really very painful when you start out, but it gets a whoooole lot easier once your muscles ease up and get used to it.  Just gotta beat those tight little trigger points into submission  😃  Worked for me, anyway.  Tight muscles and whatnot seems to be the cause of plenty of trouble when running.  Well… that and poor gait/footwear.  If you're a heel-striker, that probably wouldn't help your knees much, either.

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        • Matty123M
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          Thanks @nurunuru I do have a roller and I just started using it again. It’s easy to
          Forget about that torcher device. But it’s very helpful. Thanks

          Maybe so. Maybe not

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          • N
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            @Matty123 I’ve got to agree, stretching and foam rolling has worked wonders for me. I’ve got a lacrosse ball for the harder to reach places that a foam roller is too big to get into.

            I’m curious what if anything you all do for winter training (or offseason for those of you south of the equator) besides run and winter sports. Does anyone do any weight training? A much faster friend recommended doing some squats and deadlifts. Her already fast husband hit the gym last winter and she said this season she had to go close to all out to keep up with him.
            So I’m trying it. Doesn’t seem like it’ll hurt, and I don’t have a propensity to pack on pounds of muscle. Also thinking about adding a weight vest with light weights on some hike/run outings as recommended in Steve Houses book.

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            • DougNgD
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              I'm going to start doing kettlebells again when the snow comes down. I did it for years and it's very effective for both resistance training and cardio. Really good for your range of motion too.

              I do yoga year round, but will probably step up my workouts in the winter as well. Helps a lot with flexibility and proprioception.

              I also do sandbag training for resistance/weight training year round. That schedule will stay the same in the winter months.

              I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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              • N
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                @DougNg well, it’s been over a month now. I started incorporating kettlebells after your post- I felt worked the first time I used them! I also got and have been using a weight vest in the gym and have used it while hiking only. That’s pretty killer too.

                Anyone have any fun races/goals/adventures planned for 2019? A friend of mine finally got into Hardrock, so I’ve been tapped to pace her. Feeling a little intimidated, as she is definitely faster than me, and her other pacers are her husband who is even faster than her, and her coach who is a former Olympian! I’ll be set if I get to go through the night in the rain, as it seems the worse the conditions are, the better I do!

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                • nurunuruN
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                  @neversummer:

                  A friend of mine finally got into Hardrock, so I’ve been tapped to pace her.

                  Fun!  A co-worker/buddy of mine paced a friend of his at the Hardrock a coupla years back.  I enjoyed hearing all about it, and I've been wanting to get out there myself ever since seeing a picture he took of Animas Forks.  Looks like an absolutely wonderful part of the country!  Especially if you don't have to do a hundo while you're there!

                  I have a love/hate (but mostly hate) relationship with races, so I've got nothing planned for this year.  Many people finish a gnarly race and say, "I'm never doing that again!" before booking their place in another equally gnarly race a few days later.  Me not so much.  Sure, I remember the joy at the end… but I also remember what came before.  And I know I can just go out longboarding and get some good exercise, whilst maintaining a pretty constant level of joy.  So I'm more inclined to do that this summer.

                  That said, there is a fun-looking Last Runner Standing race up in Duluth in June, which I may sign up for just to experience the vibe a run maybe a coupla laps.  It's modelled on Laz's Big Dog Backyard Ultra down in Tennessee, which is of course an insanely cool event, so it'd be kinda fun to check it out.  We shall see.  I'm really just looking forward to another fine year of biking and running and skating whenever I feel like it, without the need to "train" for anything, though!

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                  • DougNgD
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                    Glad it worked out. It's definitely a tough workout but doesn't cause the usual range of motion issues with traditional resistance training.

                    Ever since I started running I've been getting asked by friends if I'm going to do a race soon. I really don't have any interest in it. One of the reasons why I like running is that I can be left the hell alone to my thoughts. The idea of sharing the same air with thousands of other people is just unappealing.

                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                    • ChrisC
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                      Do a trail race, Doug. Fewer people, you don't have to run on pavement, and there are invariably times when there are no other runners in sight.  It's pretty great.

                      I've basically sworn off road races at this point.  Basically sworn off running on roads at all, in fact.

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                      • nurunuruN
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                        @DougNg  Right on.  If you don't feel like doing a race, there is zero pressure to do one–regardless of friends and their badgering.  I have come to view races (specifically endurance ones) as a great way of making a fun thing miserable.  Who says that just because you like running, you have to make it competitive?  No one I care to listen to, that's who  😃

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                        • DougNgD
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                          I usually casually run at about a 9min/mile pace around my neighborhood every morning (later the last couple weeks as I have been on furlough) for roughly 6.5mi. I find it a good way to see what's going around the 'hood and jettison some of the bullshit in my head.

                          If I want to "race", I'll just push myself for some additional speed, or do an extra lap (I run laps around a small section of the neighborhood, one lap is roughly 1.1mi. I found this helpful when I started in case I hurt myself, I'm never more than 0.5mi away from the house).

                          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                          • UnTuckedU
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                            In-feckin'-spired to get out and log some miles after reading "Can't Hurt Me", by David Goggins…

                            About 50% of the book is what he's already said twice on The Joe Rogan podcast, but still a DAMN GOOD read.

                            In search of:
                            IHV-04, med.
                            IHSH-185, large
                            IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                            • nurunuruN
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                              Well, that's as may be… but Amazon customer Ismael gave the book a one-star rating because of all the "cussing."  "What a waste of a triumph due to cussing," he says.

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                              • UnTuckedU
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                                "Can't see the wood for the trees"…

                                I'm currently debating if, for all the cursing, the message would be lost on my 13yr old son

                                In search of:
                                IHV-04, med.
                                IHSH-185, large
                                IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                • ChrisC
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                                  My 13 year old self would not have been the least bit distracted by profanity.  But then I'm more foul mouthed than most.

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                                  • nurunuruN
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                                    @UnTucked:

                                    "Can't see the wood for the trees"…

                                    Quite so.  I think I would have quite readily seen the message of a book like that through the swearing at the age of thirteen.  I mean… at age thirteen, the world away from home is just a stream of constant swears anyway.

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                                    • UnTuckedU
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                                      My thoughts exactly…

                                      We sat down and watched Superbad together; the book is definitely better than that, lol!

                                      In search of:
                                      IHV-04, med.
                                      IHSH-185, large
                                      IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                      • atm23A
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                                        @UnTucked
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                                        In-feckin'-spired to get out and log some miles after reading "Can't Hurt Me", by David Goggins…

                                        About 50% of the book is what he's already said twice on The Joe Rogan podcast, but still a DAMN GOOD read.

                                        I have this book on Audible, but have yet to start it! I've been a huge fan of Goggins since Living with A Seal, which is also a great read. I'm glad people like @UnTucked are aware of people like this instead of the brainless celebrities that most people follow. I would advise you guys to check out John McAvoy as well. Pure bad ass! Our Iron Heart family from the UK might know of some the people he was involved with!

                                        On a side note, I have been running 6 days a week along with rowing/cycling/swimming to get ready for this tri!

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                                        • DougNgD
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                                          Is there something you guys are doing in your diets or supplements that you're taking that allow you to run consecutive days a week? Every time I run three days straight I can barely walk afterwards, regardless of mileage.

                                          I've put in a lot of miles since I've been on furlough…not going to lie, I'm really enjoying the shutdown...

                                          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                          • atm23A
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                                            @DougNg I dont take anything particularly, I just stretch alot! Glucosamine can only help if I would have to recommend something.

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