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Loved Season 7, John and Sir Davos are like a fantasy/ medieval Lethal Weapon pairing
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Why would you read the books when there is a YV show ???
Because when I started reading the books twenty years ago, there was no tv show ?
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@Chris my wife read the books prior to the show (re-read once the show started) and she has a love/hate relationship with the show…I feel this is the normal occurrence with most books that turn into movies and TV shows.
I have not read the books and really enjoy the show...and now want to read the books
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Why would you read the books when there is a YV show ???
Because when I started reading the books twenty years ago, there was no tv show ?
Weeeeeell, lookee like we got ourselves a reader….
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@Chris my wife read the books prior to the show (re-read once the show started) and she has a love/hate relationship with the show…I feel this is the normal occurrence with most books that turn into movies and TV shows.
I have not read the books and really enjoy the show...and now want to read the books
Be warned @Dstauffer if you read the books there will be scenes and some characters in the books that will really one up the show. You'll be left thinking, "Wow they really half assed that in the show" or "Why didn't they put that in the show!?". Having said that I still really enjoyed both the books and the show so far.
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Honestly, I don't think I'd recommend reading the books to anyone considering starting now. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed them, and the first three are phenomenal, but Martin started having difficulties with his writing about fifteen years ago, and books four and five are, at best, mediocre. He claims it will be a seven book series, and book five was published in 2011. There's no credible expectation for when book six will be done, let alone book seven. I don't think it's a good idea to commit to 5,000+ pages of reading with a strong likelihood of never seeing the end of the series.
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I read book 1-4 in one go and then had to wait years until a dance with dragons was published. Never got back into the story after the long break and stoped after 300 pages. Now, after the TV series fucked it all up when they had no more books to draw Inspiration from, I don't think I'll pick the book up again. And I don't think that G.R.R.M. will ever finish book 6 and 7, now that the story finishes on TV.
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Generally speaking, I think people go to the whole book/film debate the wrong way. The thing is that they are two entirely different forms of communication that try to tell the same story (more or less). The formats are so different that comparing them is a pointless task. Add to that the enormous difference in the two industries involved and you basically comparing apples and oranges. I try to enjoy each for what they are.
LoTR being a great case in point. It received lots of praise for staying true to the story, but it really didn't. What it did do was a great job of telling the story from the books in a different medium while also making a book many described as unfilmable into a going concern. I think GoT has managed the same trick, which given the pressures a tv show is under, that novelists just don't have to relate to, is quite impressive.
All that being said, the problem with both the films of LoTR and GoT is that if you've seen them first I think they would create serious problems when reading the books because you're brain would be filling in with visuals from the screen as you read. In both cases that would often jar with the descriptions on the page.
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I had this exact same problem when recently reading Stephan King's The Shinning after watching the movie many times as well as a documentary about the film.
The issue went deeper than imagery as Nicholson's portrayal of Jack Torrence is at times very different than the book at times, which ultimately made it difficult for my mind to process the information regarding that character.
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Which in my opinion proves the point. GoT is just telling the story. Doesn't matter that it hasn't been released in novel form. I know people are criticising S7 for being lightweight and blaming that on thin source material, but I think it's more to do with the necessity of finishing the damn thing.
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Which in my opinion proves the point. GoT is just telling the story. Doesn't matter that it hasn't been released in novel form. I know people are criticising S7 for being lightweight and blaming that on thin source material, but I think it's more to do with the necessity of finishing the damn thing.
But at what cost?
I mean come on, headlessly marching bejond the wall to catch an undead to show Cersey, without a plan and such. In the books a stupid action like this would have been punished and everybody involved would have died a horrible death. Not just some side characters that no one cares about and some extras.
The problem is not that they finish the story in another media format. The problem is, that they can't keep the high standard without G.R.R.M. source material. At least it seems like it.
As for the Lord of the Rings, this is the best (corrected) adaption of the books I know:
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Totally see your point about GoT. Thing is though we know don't know what Martin has/had planned. Could be that was all his idea. The problem with Martin is his perfectionism and/or inability to finish things has created this situation. In any case GoT will run for eight seasons, and if they hadn't started finishing it now then I suspect things would have suffered anyway. Which show runs for eight seasons these days? Martin can use as many books as he likes to finish (although I doubt it'll ever happen, which is a shame as I've enjoyed the books), but the TV guys don't have that luxury in terms of viewer satisfaction, logistics and probably studio backing.
I'm happy with the show. It's been great fun and I'm more than willing to entertain silliness and ignore plot holes in exchange for ice breathing zombie dragons, and the rest of the awesomeness. And not least for the fact it's actually going to end properly.
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THE DEUCE - Darlene
New documentary series on PBS about the Vietnam war, lazily named THE VIETNAM WAR…
You should be able to stream them on their website: http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-vietnam-war/home/
BOJACK HORSEMAN - I'm not sure whether there are any fans here... It's a little crude now and then (especially at first), but it keeps getting better...
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BOJACK HORSEMAN - I'm not sure whether there are any fans here… It's a little crude now and then (especially at first), but it keeps getting better...
I just started this one, I keep hearing great things.
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I just started this one, I keep hearing great things.
I just finished ep 3x04 (Fish out of Water) - whatever you do, WATCH THAT EP… It's FANTASTIC...
http://www.vulture.com/2016/07/bojack-horseman-fish-out-of-water-is-a-must-watch.html
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Watched it, loved it!
I knew you'd come though 
