WESCO

[Dstauffer]

Thank's @neph93, its good to know.

My RW 1907s can be a touch small in the toe area, and sock thickness can definitely add to that. I am thinking with the heel height on this, 11s may be the way to go

[Engineer]

@Dstauffer Do you know your brannock size?  Here's a copy/paste about how I size from a post on Reddit.  Hopefully, this gives you another point of reference.

9.5D / 9E (L/R) on the Brannock device. Left foot measures 10.4" and right foot measures 9.3" with medium weight socks. Both feet are fairly high volume, have a high instep, have a prominent navicular and have narrow heels. In GYW/Stitchdown footwear, I typically size based on my larger left foot. In handsewns, I typically size based on my smaller right foot. I typically prefer to wear medium-weight wool socks, and I prefer a looser fit vs a tight fit.

Carmina Forest: 8.5UK
Dayton Service Boots: 8EEE, very comfortable on both feet. I could probably wear an 8.5EE, too.
Quoddy: 9US
Rancourt & Co 800: (Laceup Shoes & Boots): 9D, runs a little snug in the toebox.
Rancourt & Co 2592: 9D, one of my favorite lasts for handsewn boots. Really great is you prefer some extra room in the toebox.
Red Wing Beckman & Iron Ranger: 8.5, both fit fine with thin or medium weight socks.
Trickers 2298: 8.5UK or 9UK, both fitting 5
Trickers 4497: 8.5UK fitting 5 or 6, or 9UK fitting 5
Viberg 110: 9, length is good, too loose in the heel.
Viberg 2005: I had 8.5EE, which was too short for my left foot.
Viberg 2030: I had 8.5, which was too short for my left foot
Viberg 2040: 9, snug in the heel and waist, roomy in the forefoot and toebox.
Viberg 2045: 9, snug in the heel and waist, roomy in the forefoot and toebox. Feels like it has a slightly lower instep, compared to the 2040.
Wesco Low Heel Motor Patrol: 9E, borderline too short for my left foot, despite fitting everywhere else. This last feels like it has a fairly low toebox.
Wesco High Heel Motor Patrol: 10D, Left foot fits perfectly. Right foot is a 1/4 size too long, and I use a heel pad. This last runs pretty narrow.
Wesco LTT Jobmaster: 9.5D, great fit on both feet. This is probably my most comfortable pair of boots.
Wesco Cowboy Packer: 9.5D, Left foot fits perfectly. Right foot is a 1/2 size too long, and I use a heel pad.
Yuketen Handsewn Boots: 9E, a good fit with thick socks.

[neph93]

@Dstauffer:

11s may be the way to go

Sounds like it [emoji1434]

[Dstauffer]

@Engineer Thanks for the very thorough response here.

I am between 12 and 12.5 (so I guess 12.25) on brannock size. I am thinking based on this, 11Ds with possible insoles would be a good fit.

Its hard with pull ons though, cause at least with lace ups you can tighten the fit by lacing up..obviously not the case with pull ons

[Engineer]

@Dstauffer You're very welcome!  If you're a 12-12.5 brannock, I'd think you'd take a 12 or 12.5 in these.  Maybe see if @Chris at Wesco can help??  Personally, I know that anything shorter than a 9.5 in my Jobmasters would be too short.

[jdl1279]

[Bretro_]

Stopped into Division Road today to see their veg tanned Packers in the flesh. They are so stinkin nice. I'm not too big in the natural veg just because it borders on Tang in my book ( ), but I can definitely see the appeal.

What I particularly like about this build is the softer profile of the 9109 last achieved by no toe reinforcement. Due to the insane thickness of this leather, you would hardly notice it were a "soft toe" boot. I am eagerly considering this build. This seems to be a great option for guys like me that can't take the tight toe box of the MP, but want a relatively sleek look.

[Dishelveled]

Great boot @Bretro_ So glad to have added them to my arsenal.
What an asset Division Road is to have near by–great style and astonishing depth of product knowledge... I need to make it in there to check out their new Corridor shirt colabs

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[jdl1279]

That is a sharp boot. Interesting to see an unstructured toe box on the 9109 last.

[Bretro_]

@jdl1279:

That is a sharp boot. Interesting to see an unstructured toe box on the 9109 last.

My thoughts exactly

[jdl1279]

I'm curious how similar they'd be to my work boots (pics above) which also was built on the 9109. I'm fond of the bump toe, but would be nice to have similar fit with a different profile

[Dishelveled]

[Bretro_]

Wish I could comment on that but this was my first time trying on this last.

[Dstauffer]

@Bretro_ Division Road does some sick footwear collaborations and the owners have always been extremely friendly and helpful.

I am currently holding out for their fall 310 Viberg release, but when I saw they were going to be releasing those Wescos, it was really, really hard not to buy a pair.

@Dishelveled They look awesome man!

[Dishelveled]

Thanks @Dstauffer
I'm going to try to make it down for Div Rds x Wesco event on April 1, to boot geek out with the best of 'em
Interested in their upcoming ladies boots for my Girl's present and maybe something nice for me too, lol

Also iirc Div Rd and Viberg have a chucka boot colab in the works!

Cheers…

[Dstauffer]

@Dishelveled have a blast man! I hope you find something for your lady. I got my wife into some RWs and she LOVES them, I can only imagine with would be the same with Wescos.

Please post some pics here if you remember.

[Bretro_]

@Dishelveled:

@Dishelveled
Looking good! How'd you size on em? I quickly tried on some 9.5s (like, put one boot on one foot sitting down style), which is my Whites/RW/Truebalance size, and they felt pretty good, but I really didn't give them a test drive beyond that. Any sizing recommendations?

[Dishelveled]

@Bretro_  I went size 8 in these and the Packhorses–could have gone 8.5, but I prefer 'em snug.
I have more room in my size 8 Vibergs and Tricker's for comparison--I could NOT have sized up to an 8.5 in those.

Also, these PackRIDERS are thick  veg-tan leather and thus put more lateral pressure on the sides of my feet, where the leather is double layered ( I assume that'll ease when broken in–still brand spanken new) but much more noticable than the Domain rough outs.

Hope that helps you triangulate...

[mahlon321]

@Appfaff:

Damn Mahlon - killing it as usual - post up some pics of those wescos in the thread when you can

thank you sir @Appfaff
as requested, some pics of my engineers. bit of an overload…

[Appfaff]

Heck yes!! Those are so awesome looking dude!  Thanks for posting up?

What toe is on your model? Looks beefier than the MP and even unconstructed boss toe I normally see.

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