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    • neph93N
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      That's a bit weird. When I put them on first time they were like latex. I squatted and lunged a bit and they went from Motley Crüe ca. 1989 to relaxed, slim tapered fit for the modern man…

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

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      • tvenutoT
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        @spitfiredealer:

        Thanks man,  i am hoping for 0.5" but that might be too hopefully. My quads have blown up in a month. Seriously considering training them less

        NEVER!

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        • DionD
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          Looking at the measurements, I think 3Sixteen's CT-fit (Classic Tapered) should be great.

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          • S
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            I started going to the gym about 6 months ago. I used to bike everywhere for most of my exercise. I'm also eating more, trying to gain weight and muscle. My thighs have really grow. MY DWCxUHRs used to be fine in the thighs and now they are uncomfortably tight, so I'm going to retire them. I went to SE today and got a pair of 633-14oz. They had a nice amount of room in the thing and a good taper. Pretty psyched about them, and hoping the lighter weight can carry me through the summer.

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            • EngineerE
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              I'm not a lifter, but I've always had large legs from playing soccer.  For reference, I'm a 34W in IH bottoms, and my thighs measure ~25".  Some good fits for me are:

              IH-633S
              IH-1955-UHR
              IH-816
              TFH-3012
              Left Field Greaser

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              • SlimStraightNYUSAS
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                I'd take a different approach. I have an actual 28" waist. My quad-ham circumference is at least 24". Plus I have a black girl booty. I wear 29" 634-SV (which Giles let out a little in the thighs). Cold water stretching is my solution. I've asked a LOT of the outseam so I got them wet and cold wearing them and partial-squatted into the "top bucket" to get them taught on my quads, and directly massage the denim there. Pushing it out by putting the heels of my hands together, using my fingers to anchor, I press in and stretch out from the approximate center. There is approximately 0 "roominess", but because I can I can hike them all the way up to the crotch, I have freedom of movement (Giles calls Vulcan a stubborn denim). I'm not trying to catch a snatch ass to grass in these jeans.

                So the point is, I look at the measurements. But I think Iron Heart could look at the possibility of "open waste-to-glute-to-thigh ratio" jeans. Specific "IH-ISJ", I dunno, IH- iron sports jeans. I understand how exclusory a fit like this would be (sweepingly irrelevant to most), but it'd be it's own corner of the market. And you know you start from average and only fit to larger than average. I've looked fairly exhaustively at pre-fab designs ($100-$350) and there is always a hefty sacrifice to make. Either in rise, oversized waist, taper(-less) options and so on. A higher back yolk combined with a little more fabric between the hip crease on the front down to the knee.

                I have MANY friends that have to buy stretch denim. Or sacrifice form fitting by buying a bigger waist. Many of them complain (my teammate brandon used the word oppressive, lol) about not being able to get ahold of a really super pair of jeans to go out in like "regular" guys. Thing is, I'D buy them, at least a dozen people I know personally would buy them and I cant imagine they wouldnt sell out every time. Olympic weightlifting and bodybuilding (powerlifting not so much in that they often are just big, not big and extremely narrow in the waist. also, cycling, rugby, american football, rowing, gymnastics, etc. ad infinitum) are both iron sports that will INVARIABLY build extreme ratios. Now couple that with how many participate worldwide. Well, we all want put on that FIRE pair of jeans and go out on the town to turn the boys and girls heads.

                Iron Hearts are for Iron Sports, whether you play with iron horses or barbells!

                Edit: specifically at The Arnold and other fitness conventions. Athletes spend hours and hours doing photos and autographs and other press opportunities. Youtube fitness community is half/half actual exercise clips and lifestyle clips (from diet, equipment and supplement reviews to hobbies like fine dining, parkour, and motorcycling).

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                • neph93N
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                  Real life lifter problems: When your deadlift form is so tight (or shite?) that you scrape all the skin off your shins  ::)

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                  • spitfiredealerS
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                    my shins are always scabbed up from deadlifts. I consider my form pretty good. Have tried adjusting it to stop this but it always felt like the bar was getting away from me thus making the lift harder.

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                    • neph93N
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                      @spitfiredealer:

                      my shins are always scabbed up from deadlifts. I consider my form pretty good. Have tried adjusting it to stop this but it always felt like the bar was getting away from me thus making the lift harder.

                      Yes! I have the same experience. I'm short limbed with a long torso which makes it worse I fear.

                      I've just read up on it online and the thing that's repeated is that if the bars hitting your shins then it's because your knees are bending too much and tracking outward. But that just isn't the case with me. My shins stay more or less perpendicular with the floor.

                      I'm very conscious of keeping my back neutral and tracking the bar vertically and I think my T-Rex arms need to keep the bar very close to my body. Fekk it though, it was a good workout.

                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                      • spitfiredealerS
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                        See I was always told the bar should be touching your legs throughout the lift. Or as close as possible.

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                        • neph93N
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                          @spitfiredealer:

                          See I was always told the bar should be touching your legs throughout the lift. Or as close as possible.

                          I've been told that too. We're right and the internet is wrong. Fake news. 😉

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                            Not sure if this has been posted before, but this is a good video to watch…look at those shin pads!

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                            • neph93N
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                              Great post ^ Also shows why the bar has to be close to the shins. Your shoulders need to be forward of the bar at the bottom of the lift if your back is to stay neutral.

                              No way I'm wearing shinpads to the gym though [emoji1]

                              Cheers, Adam.

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

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                              • spitfiredealerS
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                                When I first started getting into deadlifts this was the guy I watched a lot of.

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                                • spitfiredealerS
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                                  If Rippetoe says it never leaves your legs that was always good enough for me.

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                                  • spitfiredealerS
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                                    Started on the 5-3-1 program this week. Absolutely loved the first workout. The actually main lifts weren't too bad because it's starts pretty light. But god dam
                                    The assistant exercises kicked my arse. 5 sets of 10 reps on chin ups was a killer.

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                                    • JDelageJ
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                                      @spitfiredealer:

                                      See I was always told the bar should be touching your legs throughout the lift. Or as close as possible.

                                      This is what Rippetoe says. His explanations make sense to me.

                                      Deadlift day is sweatpant day for me.

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                                      • tvenutoT
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                                        @JDelage:

                                        @spitfiredealer:

                                        See I was always told the bar should be touching your legs throughout the lift. Or as close as possible.

                                        This is what Rippetoe says. His explanations make sense to me.

                                        Deadlift day is sweatpant day for me.

                                        Agreed.  The only sweating you should be doing is at the buffet.

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                                        • SlimStraightNYUSAS
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                                          Finished day 2 of prehab for a fracture transverse spinous process C7 (those knobs sticking off the central column). 1X5 88% (120kg). Under or within my left Trap there's a floaty bone splinter.

                                          Front squats 3X5 42-43kg, hanging/belt squats for mobility/range of motion. PVC overhead stretching and some barbell clean pulls from a knee high box.

                                          4 weeks mon-tues; thurs-fri. similar light weight exercise focusing on execution/precision and integrity of positions of my shoulder girdle and core stability.

                                          I don't do the powerlifting style squats of deadlifts, and rarely bench press (almost never). The measuring stick on DLs I was taught was that scraping the shins is caused by pulling to hard/soon, or being too reliant on the back too early. Shoulders forward allows the lower erectors to play the proper role of, well, erecting; in the isometric sense. As the barbell crests the quad-insertions points, just below hip lock out, the erectors play a huge role, but not vertically. Straightening up and standing "tall"–that last couple of centimeters of vertical completion of the DL is carried out by the glutes and traps. Between the knee and lock out, that vertical distance, "shoulders forward" demands isometric stability in the middle-back (especially the Lats, Rhomboids, and Lower-Middle Traps. We call this "sweeping" the bar. It is the physics of how we keep bar path variation to 0 in the transition from the 1st pull (appx. floor to just above the knee), to the 2nd pull (or lock out for powerlifters). "Knees through"-->"Big chest" (for posture: core-to-Lats/obliques vice grip on the "trunk"). this will cause the shoulders to internally rotate to free up the shoulder girdle to shrug the  barbell.

                                          Simplified: lower spinal erectors should never be recruited to lift weight vertically. Nothing over 100kg, and that's elite level athletes. If you look at back raises, back extensions, glute ham raises, these movements aren't linear but arcing. even "good mornings" have an "f" shaped bar path

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                                          • tvenutoT
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                                            If you unfold in the wrong order you can definitely exacerbate scraping the shins, but some people just scrape them despite no form errors.

                                            I have long legs and a short torso, and never had any problems with scraping my shins.  I do think athropometry (your general body shape/limb lengths) has something to do with it, as others mentioned.  I, however, also ascribed to the sweatpants deadlift dress code, as I mention above.

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