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    • den1mheadD
      den1mhead
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      Huge thanks to @Max Power for your donation to Teenage Cancer Trust and your support  🙂

      To donate to this amazing charity, whilst supporting me and Jules, simply click on links below;
      http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/barcleyroberts
      http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/julesroberts
      Thanks in advance, Barcley, Jules & Teenage Cancer Trust

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      • Black OrchidB
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        @den1mhead:

        Huge thanks to @Max Power for your donation to Teenage Cancer Trust and your support  🙂

        To donate to this amazing charity, whilst supporting me and Jules, simply click on links below;
        http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/barcleyroberts
        http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/julesroberts
        Thanks in advance, Barcley, Jules & Teenage Cancer Trust

        +1, thank you @Max Power from Jules

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        • neph93N
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          @spitfiredealer:

          @neph93 i would suggest adding 500 cals to your daily intake and log your progress for say a month. Use the scales and the mirror.

          Thanks very much for the input. I've become a tracking nerd with calories, weight and workouts. Everything gets logged. It has helped tremendously. My deficit has been around 500 calories so 500 more puts me at maintenance level. I think that's a good plan and like you say I can see how that goes for a month. If I get stronger while staying around about 95kg then nothing's better.

          @tmg:

          @neph93 During this time I found that I wasn't progressing quickly (or at all in some cases), and experiments with both deficit and keto diets didn't really work for me - I think if I'd pursued keto I might have started to see general improvements, but it requires a much more disciplined and organised life than I'm prepared to commit too, at least at the moment!

          Despite having had many more or less successful training periods behind me I started in May at a real low, essentially as a beginner in terms of physical condition if not knowhow. That meant I got to enjoy those noob gains of both building muscle, losing fat and getting stronger while still being in a calorific deficit. Those days have ended for me too!

          I'm unfamiliar with keto and will look it up. Thanks also for the reading tips. I'll definitely look those up too. I do love doing deadlifts and squats. I feel they are natural lifts for me, while benching is really something I have to work at.

          Thank you both for the advice. I'll post an update in a few weeks.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

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          • neph93N
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            This plus 500 calories lark is proving difficult. I was 450cal under yesterday and was heading for the same today. I had to eat half a litre of Ben & Jerry's to get my numbers up. Not sure that's the correct way forward…

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

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            • spitfiredealerS
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              Add in more fats mate. Peanut butter by the spoonful. Is a easy one.
              Whole eggs.

              I use organic beef mince and lamb to make calorie high burgers.

              Coconut oil is another one.

              List what you are eating daily so we can see

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              • tmgT
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                Yes, lots of good fats is the way to go, try googling 'fat bombs' Mug cakes are also a good way of upping your fat and protein intake

                Thinly sliced sweet potato, toasted and topped with peanut butter is pretty good too

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                • AppfaffA
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                  Some fun during today's training session. Hope everyone is having a blast working out this week! [emoji123]

                  https://instagram.com/p/BMFripkFFaE/

                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                  • gratefulmelonG
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                    @TrickHell I started 5X5 a little over a month ago and I'm loving it also. At this point, every workout is a personal record.

                    @neph93 If you're looking to gain strength without really bulking you might want to check out stronglifts 5x5, especially if you enjoy squats and deadlifts. It could also help with the stall you were speaking of.

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                    • neph93N
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                      Thank you gentlemen, for the advice.

                      @gratefulmelon that looks like a good workout. I've saved it for future reference. I've just completed the first week of my new workout which is a upper/lower split with two different workouts a week (so two upper bodies and two lower bodies). It incorporates my favourite moves as well as some new challenging isolation moves (Bulgarian Split Squats) and a couple of moves that I love to hate (Dumbbell Flyes, Pull-ups, I'm looking at you). I have a feeling it's going to work for me.

                      @tmg @spitfiredealer I dropped whole milk, cheese and some fatty fishes from my diet to achieve my deficit so I've re-introduced them. I've missed my mackerel in fact. Kingsize jars of peanut butter are purchased and I've just made, portioned and frozen a shitload of sweet potato/butter mash. I'm now hitting the calorie targets, so we'll see how things develop. Thanks again.

                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                      • GraemeG
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                        Having looked at various bits and pieces of research, I'm not convinced that there's a huge difference from eating a low fat or low carb diet over the long run. In fact, where there are advantages, it's on the order of half a kilo (about a pound) over a year.

                        Similarly there's no real evidence as to whether eating a few or many meals per day has any benefit.

                        So my take on diet is that provided you're keeping calories in the right ballpark, and sufficient protein if you're building muscle (less than a lot of bodybuilding gurus suggest), it's more a case of finding what you can stick with over the long term.

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                        • neph93N
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                          I broadly agree with that. Calories are calories wherever they come from. If weight loss or weight gain is a goal then the bottom line is that it's all about calories in minus calories out. You can eat dirty, clean, this that and the other but if your calories in are higher than calories out then you'll put on weight. If you're exposing your musculature to sufficient tension and fatigue with this calorie surplus some of that weight will be added as muscle. As you say, muscle building will also require a decent, but not ridiculous amount of protein. Apparently this is more true for those over us who have tipped 40.

                          Where high protein can help (especially when lumped in with lots of fibre) is in giving you better control of calories in. The thermic value of protein and fiber is much higher than that of carbs so you feel full for longer on the same amount of calories. Example: two pieces of bread with butter and cheese comes in at around 400cal. A decent bowl of oatmeal with whole milk, a little sugar and raisins comes in at about the same. The oatmeal has a higher thermic value and you will stay feeling full longer. This is great to take advantage of, especially if you're trying to achieve a deficit to go down in weight.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                          • GraemeG
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                            That's true, and I believe that fat is more satiating than carbs too.

                            Although, two slices of wholemeal bread will have similar macros to a bowl of oatmeal in terms of protein and fibre. 😛

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                            • DrBabyhorseD
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                              I PRd my snatch at 245lbs/111kg and thought this would be an appropriate place to share. Old man strength kicking in.

                              Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk

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                              • AppfaffA
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                                @DrBabyhorse - dang! Impressive!

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                                • gratefulmelonG
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                                  @gratefulmelon:

                                  especially if you enjoy squats and deadlifts.

                                  Seconded. My main complaint about SL5x5 is not enough deadlifts.

                                  It'd be kinda tough on the body to do many more deadlifts per week while squatting 3X per week. I try to make the most out of my warm up sets, especially on deadlifts, since it's only 1X5.

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                                  • AppfaffA
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                                    Only time I have ever been injured working out was on a Wendler 5/3/1 program And it was the deadlifts that did it.  The squat is he king of movements, deadlift should be treated as an accessory movement just like the SL guys have done.

                                    I followed a program for 2 years where we squatted in some form 5 days per week. Heavy back squats, lightweight front squat + push press (thrusters), heavy front squats, etc.  we only deadlifted 1 time per week, maybe twice if the loading was light (80% or under).  It's amazing how well you can recover from squats quickly because of how complex the movement is.

                                    As for deadlifts, of you want more pulling lifts in the program, just use power cleans as a part of your warm up. Moving weight quickly is always a better primer for the CNS than slow lifts anyways.

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                                    • den1mheadD
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                                      More running training today for the upcoming Bath half marathon, March 2017, where me and Jules ( @Black Orchid ) have pledged to raise a minimum of £300 each for the Teenage Cancer Trust charity. See images for how close we are to our targets. Massive thanks to those of you that have already donated  🙂
                                      In prep for the Bath Half, me and Alex, Jules' son, are running the Bath Hilly Half this Sunday. To view today's training route and data see attached photo.
                                      To donate to the Teenage Cancer Trust charity, whilst supporting me and Jules in March 2017, simply click on links below;
                                      http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/barcleyroberts
                                      http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/julesroberts



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                                      • AppfaffA
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                                        For those looking to add something spicy into your training today, give this one a try:

                                        As Many Rounds & Reps in 20 Minutes of:

                                        5 Push Jerks (155#)
                                        10 Back Squats (155#)
                                        15 Calories on a C2 Rower.

                                        Barbells comes from the ground.

                                        I got 6 rounds + 1 Push Jerk.  Total ball buster lol

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                                        • den1mheadD
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                                          Blatant X post from Runners . . . .

                                          More training today for the upcoming Bath half marathon, March 2017, where me and Jules ( @Black Orchid ) have pledged to raise a minimum of £300 each for the Teenage Cancer Trust charity. See how much we have raised so far in the images below . .
                                          Huge thanks to those IH forum members that have already sponsored us.

                                          To read the backstory click; https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3976.msg474036#msg474036

                                          Today I trained with Alex, Jules' son, and we ran the Trionium Bath Hilly Half, see; http://www.trionium.com/bathhillyhalf/

                                          Today's route, data and pics below;






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                                          • spitfiredealerS
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                                            So it's my last week of training before the Xmas break.
                                            I set out to be 83kg by Xmas and this morning i was 83.7kg. Well pleased with the results.
                                            Trained back tonight and because it was the last session we went for max weight on deadlifts:

                                            Top sets tonight were:
                                            180kg 4 reps
                                            190kg 3 reps
                                            200kg 2 reps

                                            Then dropped back to 140kg for 3 sets of 10 which felt like cardio!

                                            Got push tomorrow and then last session of the year will be legs on Thursday.

                                            Gotta stay focused over the holidays and make sure I eat enough. That might sound weird as usually everyone moans about putting on weight. But once i am out of my routine I am terrible for forgetting or just being lazy and not eating.

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