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IH-1955S - 21oz Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    richardjohn22
    Joined: 5 Feb 2016

    Your best bet is to email them- one of the English speaking staff should reply. INFO@PRONTODENIM.COM

    For whatever reason their flagship stores carry more Iron Heart stock than their centralised inventory suggests, which I discovered to my joy this week after visiting three different stores, so if the emailed answer comes back as a "no" you could always use Skype to ring their Central World branch (the biggest I've visited so far) to check with them. Hope that helps!

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      richardjohn22
      Joined: 5 Feb 2016

      Been wearing my pair quite a bit the last few weeks, but have been doing some serious dieting on a "cut" phase since January, and the fit doesn't look quite so sharp now I've shed about 20lbs.  But today begins the next "bulk" phase and back to the heavy weights, so I'll fix that.  I also got them professionally hemmed by Pronto at no cost on a Union Special- they did a perfect job.  Took the inseam from 37 to 33.5, which gives me the option of stacking on a boot with no cuff, or having a medium single cuff, or double cuff with very flat shoes.

      I really love the fabric of the jeans and all the details, and even though it's comfortable to wear (really comfy), the high front rise is a total bugger.  Aesthetics aside it is impractical if you use your front pockets for your wallet and phone- as the pockets come up higher on the hips it is a pain to get anything in and out of them, and if you have these items in your pockets when you try to bend to put socks on or something you realise you cannot bend at the hips and have to empty your pockets and try again- the items are pressed up against your hip rather than on your thigh. An extra inch of pocket length would solve the problem of movement when loaded up with a medium sized phone and wallet.

      Aesthetically I don't like the high front either- this doesn't matter if you wear a long top and it covers the front, I knew I'd never tuck anything in to them.  But for my frame- big strong ass specifically- the shape doesn't suit me well.  To make the cloth hang flat at the front I'd have to basically wedgie myself to pull them high enough.  As it is I end up with a lot of spare fabric bunching up in the crotch creating the 'diaper crotch/crotch bulge' look, especially when walking. Perhaps more prominent with the anti fit as the hips are particularly wide for a 36 waist.  It was not evident when I first bought them while the material was very rigid in the fly area.

      Maybe the silly looking crotch bulge will diminish as the fabric wears in more and I go back to my regular 225lbs weight.  Anyone else with these experience the crotch bulge issue?  I'm wondering if starching or ironing the flies all the time might help?  Is this more common with the heavy fabric?  Cheers lads.

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        madmonday
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 13 Oct 2009

        thanks for sharing your thoughts.

        could you please provide some pictures maybe as an example of the issue(s) you are having?

        head high, middle finger higher

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          richardjohn22
          Joined: 5 Feb 2016

          @madmonday:

          thanks for sharing your thoughts.

          could you please provide some pictures maybe as an example of the issue(s) you are having?

          Just the one issue in terms of appearance, the bunching of excess crotch fabric- I'll try to find time to post a pic shortly. They're such awesome jeans otherwise- but I am kicking myself I didn't man up and go all out with the 25oz IH-634-XHS, which is the only other jean IH sell that fits me.

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            madmonday
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 13 Oct 2009

            slow & steady wins the race @richardjohn22 .  in my limited experience I've found heavier denim almost always looks weird/off until it settles down.  21oz denim is a great gateway because it gets you used to the heavier weight without being restrictive or uncomfortable.

            Your crotch issue would have possibly been worse with heavier denim . . . but then again that 634 cut is golden for a lot of folks & that 25oz denim wears in so nice, hahahahaha

            Sorry no help

            head high, middle finger higher

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              richardjohn22
              Joined: 5 Feb 2016

              @madmonday:

              Your crotch issue would have possibly been worse with heavier denim . . . but then again that 634 cut is golden for a lot of folks & that 25oz denim wears in so nice, hahahahaha

              Haha!  😉 thanks for that!  😛

              By the way, the 634 "cut" is massively variable in 36 waist, same silhouette basically, but the XHS is far roomier and big rear rise. Some of them I couldn't even pull up over my legs in the shop! haha. Considerable variation.

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                richardjohn22
                Joined: 5 Feb 2016

                By the way, in Dubai this week my friend took me to a shop where they sell skinny jeans that even fit me! How bizarre. I still can't bring myself to buy stretchy jeans, yuk, but interesting that someone makes them with sufficient thigh and seat room. 11/17 front rear rise even. Wow. But £180 for stupid skinny stretchy jeans? Nonono  😉

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                  David K.K. Hansen
                  Joined: 12 Nov 2014

                  @richardjohn22:

                  Aesthetics aside it is impractical if you use your front pockets for your wallet and phone- as the pockets come up higher on the hips it is a pain to get anything in and out of them, and if you have these items in your pockets when you try to bend to put socks on or something you realise you cannot bend at the hips and have to empty your pockets and try again- the items are pressed up against your hip rather than on your thigh. An extra inch of pocket length would solve the problem of movement when loaded up with a medium sized phone and wallet.

                  I had the issue you describe above with my 634 jeans when I upgraded my phone to an iPhone 6 Plus.  With the 1955 jeans the pockets are deep enough that I don't have this issue, even though I also have a big bum and tree trunk thighs.  Just one of those "your millage may vary".

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                    tmg
                    Joined: 10 Sept 2010

                    @BULLITT:

                    I also have a big bum and tree trunk thighs.

                    I'm in that boat, and looking forward to getting some of these when they next appear in May, but I never carry anything in my front pockets, so it'll be interesting to see how they sit at the front.

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                      richardjohn22
                      Joined: 5 Feb 2016

                      @BULLITT:

                      @richardjohn22:

                      Aesthetics aside it is impractical if you use your front pockets for your wallet and phone- as the pockets come up higher on the hips it is a pain to get anything in and out of them, and if you have these items in your pockets when you try to bend to put socks on or something you realise you cannot bend at the hips and have to empty your pockets and try again- the items are pressed up against your hip rather than on your thigh. An extra inch of pocket length would solve the problem of movement when loaded up with a medium sized phone and wallet.

                      I had the issue you describe above with my 634 jeans when I upgraded my phone to an iPhone 6 Plus.  With the 1955 jeans the pockets are deep enough that I don't have this issue, even though I also have a big bum and tree trunk thighs.  Just one of those "your millage may vary".

                      If I wear these down on my hips I can put my iPhone 6 in my pocket fine, it's only when I wear them higher up that there is an issue.  Worn an inch or two below the navel I couldn't bend with even an iPhone 4 in my pocket.

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                        richardjohn22
                        Joined: 5 Feb 2016

                        @tmg:

                        @BULLITT:

                        I also have a big bum and tree trunk thighs.

                        I'm in that boat, and looking forward to getting some of these when they next appear in May, but I never carry anything in my front pockets, so it'll be interesting to see how they sit at the front.

                        These sure can accommodate massive legs. If you can't wear these it's down to custom making your jeans or wearing something else…

                        By the way, I experimented with a few different pairs of jeans (I have tons), and think the crotch bulge issue will go away when I fill out the seat area once more...  Jeans definitely flatter more when you can fill out your chosen pair.

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                          tmg
                          Joined: 10 Sept 2010

                          G, are these still due a restock this month?

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                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            The fairytale schedule says so.  But it is a Japanese trait that admitting that a production run will be late is like an admission of failure.  So I don't get told until really late (if at all) that stuff is running late because no one can pluck up enough courage to tell me….

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              tmg
                              Joined: 10 Sept 2010

                              Fair enough, and thanks for the honest reply….I'm in no rush [emoji4]

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                              • Jordonf9J
                                Jordonf9
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 11 Feb 2015

                                Might need these in 34 when restocked 🙂 Probably a 34.5" hem, be perfect!

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                                • Jordonf9J
                                  Jordonf9
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 11 Feb 2015

                                  Got an e-mail these were restocked, but all gone?

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                                  • Madame ButtonflyM
                                    Madame Buttonfly
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                                    RESTOCKED TODAY - ALL SIZES:  28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42 AND 44

                                    🙂

                                    AKA Mrs G

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                                    • Jordonf9J
                                      Jordonf9
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 11 Feb 2015

                                      Thanks @Madame Buttonfly Looks like a 34 is in my future, just got to drop some money off at the bank.

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                                        theding
                                        Joined: 9 Jun 2013

                                        Okay, I keep meaning to come on here and say something about these jeans. I have been wearing Iron Heart for a while now. The 634S being my go-to. As much as I love those jeans (especially the pair I have worn for a good 4 years or more) they've always felt a bit too tight in the thigh and loose in the waist and seat. A short while ago I figured I'd give the 1955 a go.

                                        Wow. I went an inch smaller in the waist, which gave me a much better fit there and the seat but with plenty of room in the thigh. The length is perfect and the taper actually sits a bit nicer on my trainers. My new favourite jean I reckon. Going to live with them for another month or so and then a second pair will most certainly need to be purchased.

                                        Please can we get these in brown, or overdyed, or grey, or…or...or...I don't know...something else. I want excuses to buy more!

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                                          Zdenek
                                          Joined: 15 Oct 2016

                                          Breaking in my new 1955S W 31. Great experience wearing a 21 oz denim!!

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