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      Mega, I agree with you pretty much on every point, but Norton was NOT a good Banner. Given, there is still no real way to appropriate the comics to film (I think Hulk is a garbage hero), but Ed Norton was not given enough of a story to wor with. They tried to make it dramatic before the film was ready to go there. Ed Norton was just too good a character for the cinematography style and Steven Tyler's daughter. It just did not work for me, but I agree with you, Ed Norton is one of the best actors on the planet!

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      • Megatron1505M
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        I thought that he did well with what he had to work with, especially in the early parts of the movie (the Brazil bit), and gave enough to suggest that the character could be developed. Hulk is a tough one to get right on screen, you can simply go with the comic relief element he provides in the Avengers, or you have to go into the real dark stuff that Peter David wrote (the Aids storyline was astounding for the time). The obvious Hulk story for movie adaption is Planet Hulk, but when you think about it, it would have to be 90% CGI so I remain to be convinced about that.

        Mark Ruffalo is also very good, he does a nervous Bruce Banner well, but that makes the character a little one dimensional in my opinion, and the only development you can really get from a movie Hulk is through Bruce Banner.

        Personally I think that Marvel have realised that, and hence he only gets wheeled out for Avengers movies at present, although a movie is slated for release in 2018!

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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          Mega, I 100% agree with you. Mark Ruffalo knows how to do the anxiety / nervousness which is at the heart of Hulk. The things, I, personally, don't feel like he's that great of a hero, she-hulk pretty much stole his spotlight for the last couple of years and he doesn't have anything new coming out. Hulk is way to big to be relegated to the background in any film, and I agree with you 100%

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          • GraemeG
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            Just wondering, how much do superheroes actually evolve and change over time? I don't read comics or graphic novels much these days, and am more of a film geek in any case.

            I'd have thought that the long-running nature of comic books would mitigate against this. It's not as though Batman has a story with a beginning, middle and end. I get the impression that if there are big changes they tend to get rebooted, retconned, or otherwise explained away in a really convoluted plot so as to maintain the status quo.

            Imagine if Peter Parker had aged in real time from a teenager when he was published in the sixties through to a 70 year old now. You'd probably be onto his son or even grandson as the current Spider Man. Or a grumpy old man kicking ass and taking names.

            That makes the origin story the most interesting part. I haven't watched Arrow, but I believe they've interspersed that throughout the series, rather than getting it out of the way in the pilot. I think that's the way to do it.

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            • Megatron1505M
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              There's no chronological evolution, but the writers go with times, 60's Batman comics were much like the Adam West TV show, 80's Superman had a mullet. Character development is more a necessity the movies, it's much easier to change a comic book history than movies, which generally do require the dreaded reboot.

              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                for gav

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                • Megatron1505M
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                  A gay cowboy?  😃

                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  • GraemeG
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                    Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Suicide Squad.

                    From left to right:

                    • Adam Beach as Slipknot

                    • Jai Courtney as Captain Boomerang

                    • Cara Delevinge as Enchantress

                    • Karen Fukuhara as Katana

                    • Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flagg

                    • Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn

                    • Will Smith as Deadshot

                    • Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc

                    • Jay Hernandez as El Diablo

                    No, I don't know who most of them are either…

                    Before the fanboys get up in arms about Will Smith not wearing a mask, he does have one.

                    Along with a pimp costume for when he's blending in as a civilian.

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                    • GraemeG
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                      It seems as though Our Glorious Leader is developing Dr. Doom style soundbites…

                      OK, it's Marvel rather than DC, but…

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                      • GraemeG
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                        Robin always gets left out of the films. However, Grayson is a fan film trailer about what happens after Batman dies.

                        My sister reckons that Batman edits Robin out of the films because he wants all the glory for himself. 🙂

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                        • GraemeG
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                          It's a good thing that @Megatron1505 is off on holiday. This video would horrify him.

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                            Lol. Just silly

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                                by all theories, superman wins hands down…  😎 sorry bat lovers..

                                "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                  Maybe Batman has some kryptonite in his bat-utility-belt, next to his shark repellant spray?

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                                    Wonder Woman FTW.

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      Thrasher armour is lined with kryptonite, jeez doesn't anyone read comic books  😛

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        as usual late to the party and didnt read the thread so i am just going to throw this out there "adam west " …

                                        i shall now back away

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                                          Who are:

                                          • Thrasher
                                          • JLA (some kind of boy band from X-Factor?)
                                          • Darkseid

                                          I don't read any of this children's stuff.

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