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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    Self Edge x Iron Heart = SEXIH22-301s

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      Phumin
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      SEXIH22 or 301s most nice fade ??

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      • Jordan23J
        Jordan23
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        As it's the same denim it may depend on your fit but potential should be the same!

        AE

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          Phumin
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          Want to buy tag size 31pleass

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            TDjr
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            How much soak so you recommend for these?  I've never had such a rigid denim post-soak before - cant tell if it's because of the denim weight (my pevious pairs have all been 15-16oz) or because of the loomstate?  so far its done 60min in tub with a few minutes of gentle agitation (as hot as my apt water gets - I can keep my hand in it for a short period of time).  I then drained half the tub and replaced it with more hot water to soak for another 30 min.  Enough of a first soak?
            Thanks for your help!!

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            • grabby22G
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              It sounds like more than enough… Did you lose a lot of indigo?

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                TDjr
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                surprisingly little actually!  i got a single ring around the tub, but the water looked barely bluer than when i started.  and the denim's still VERY dark.

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                • grabby22G
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                  Cool. As long as they fit well post soak, it's all good!

                  And post some fit pics!

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                    TDjr
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                    ok.  i need opinions about the fit of these - I'm a little concerned.




                    my main concern is the upper thigh.  I suspect it's all bunchy in the crotch right now due to how stiff the denim is at the moment - and hopefully as the legs settle, gravity will pull it down some so it's not so bulbous (i.e. so it won't look like I'm stuffing).  What do you guys think?

                    i'm also torn between cuff vs. not and stacks vs. not …
                    I'm pretty short (5' 8", 125lbs), so I'm not sure cuffs will help out my lack of height - just accent how short I am.  (It's sad because then people won't see the cool gray weft).  In the past, I've cuffed, but with black weft, so it's hard for most people to notice.  As for stacks, I have 5" of hem turned inwards to get an idea of what it might look like if I got them hemmed at that length with minimal stacking.  Whadya guys think?  Add another inch or two of hem?

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                    • derivative666D
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                      That fit is perfect

                      "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                      • llvlaglneL
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                        1- you're not short

                        2- the denim will soften up and settle, after creases set in (whiskers/combs) you'll be able to judge for yourself if you need to cuff. if you want to cuff…cuff

                        3- you do not have to lie if you stuff, it's only weird if you make it weird 😉

                        "…think of a world tour as similar as to the sisterhood of the traveling pants." -LandoCal126

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                        • urbanwoodsmanU
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                          Weirdly enough, I saw one of my buddies the other day and he asked me about the bunching in the crotch with this cut. I have a sz36 and he has a sz33. They both have this issue. It doesn't go away. I've had mine for almost a year now. Maybe Kiya likes to hide snakes in his pants? Maybe it only affected us three?

                          FYI I've hot machine washed and dried three times. If you have room in the waist, I would try a hot machine wash.

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                          • grabby22G
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                            They look perfect to me. Don't worry too much and just wear them!

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                              @llvlaglne:

                              1- you're not short

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                              • el padreE
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                                Yup, that looks good. And I think cuffing will look fine, too. 5'8" is a fine height, and you should definitely keep the option of a cuff.

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                                  TDjr
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                                  Thanks for the votes of confidence.  I dropped by Self Edge today to model the denim (seeing it in real life is better than pictures), and the gang concluded that I could definitely size down one.  So off to the market they go.  If anyone's interested:
                                  http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6940.msg379903#msg379903

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                                  • KrisBK
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                                    @urbanwoodsman:

                                    Weirdly enough, I saw one of my buddies the other day and he asked me about the bunching in the crotch with this cut. I have a sz36 and he has a sz33. They both have this issue. It doesn't go away. I've had mine for almost a year now. Maybe Kiya likes to hide snakes in his pants? Maybe it only affected us three?

                                    FYI I've hot machine washed and dried three times. If you have room in the waist, I would try a hot machine wash.

                                    This issue is present in the 633 also

                                    I thought it was only because I did a major size up, but I guess is across this whole release unfortunately

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                                    • AnesthetistA
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                                      I still think they looked good on you, but if you want smaller than go for it. Keep in mind that this denim is some stubborn shit, make sure you have the room where you need it because stretch will be hard to get IMO.

                                      IG: bluehandsslim

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                                      • BobB
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                                        Hahahaha

                                        @llvlaglne:

                                        3- you do not have to lie if you stuff, it's only weird if you make it weird 😉

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                                        • NorthernVictoryN
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                                          TBH that bunching in the crotch just looks awful. IMO, of course.

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                                            In defense of the 301 cut, the guy at SENY help point out a lot of issues that were accentuating the excess room in my pics:
                                            1)  The denim was very stiff in the leg, effectively propping up the crotch area from the thighs.  That would definitely improve as the denim settles.
                                            2)  The way in which I dried the denim after soaking (i.e. I didn't flat dry it front-to-back, rather on its side because I didn't want any creases to form at the inseam/outseam) made it so that the top block was oval-shaped when you look at it from above: crotch/butt were jutting out excessively (i.e. not touching my body) whereas the sides were flush against the sides of my thighs.  That would also change as the denim settles.
                                            3)  Finally, I had a full inch of waist room post-soak - so the entire jean could have been smaller.

                                            Consequently, I think the 301 cut is great at Size 30 (I can't speak about the 33 or the 36 that UrbanWoodsman mentioned); I just need a smaller size.  As soon as this one sells, I will be getting a Size 29 in the 301 cut for sure.

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