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    • AnesthetistA
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      @tigerpac:

      Did you guys see Zenith is going to start using outsourced movements in their low end watches?

      I thought they had done this before? Maybe not, but I'm not surprised. Don't expect the price to reflect the different movement though.

      IG: bluehandsslim

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      • ChrisC
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        In my opinion, that's less of an issue than Zenith's ugly designs.  The company's only real draw is, and has always been, the El Primero movement.  As long as they keep making that, they'll continue to survive.  But unless they can create some appealing long term models, like the Daytona, Speedmaster Professional, Navitimer, etc., they're never going to thrive.

        Now if the move to outsourced movements means that they're going downscale and intend to compete in a more affordable category, this might have a chance of working out for them.

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        • AnesthetistA
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          Well I think they are trying to move past the fashion phase that one of the former CEOs pushed for. They are making more conservative and handsome watched like the Primero chono 1969. I have owned a Zenith dress watch in the past and it was a decent mid tiered piece. Manufacture manual movement, gold hands, guilloche, but not the same level finish as the big dogs IMO.

          IG: bluehandsslim

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          • tigerpacT
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            I believe Zenith used Martel movements in the past, but they had purchased Martel prior so it was still 'in-house'

            I know it shouldn't and that its completely illogical but sorta cheapens the brand and EP movement in some stupid way to me.

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            • urbanwoodsmanU
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              My buddy Jordan who owns Silver Lining Opticians in Soho is friends with the guy from Hodinkee. They filmed some Rolex Daytonas in his shop. Pretty nice video.

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              • derivative666D
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                Sick

                "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                • louisboscoL
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                  so sick…

                  "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                  • SaschaVSS
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                    SBDX001 SEIKO Marinemaster

                    I´m so in love with that watch!!! thinking about buying this when in Japan!! any recommendations or maybe also a dealer in japan you have good experience with???

                    IHFFIH

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                    • AnesthetistA
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                      I've owned one in the past and it's a great, undervalued watch.

                      IG: bluehandsslim

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                      • AnesthetistA
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                        Seiyajapan.com frequently has them btw.

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                        • SaschaVSS
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                          @Anesthetist:

                          I've owned one in the past and it's a great, undervalued watch.

                          I read so much about that watch the last weeks and I´m pretty sure that she´s exactly what you said!! Thanks!

                          IHFFIH

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                          • SaschaVSS
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                            @Anesthetist:

                            Seiyajapan.com frequently has them btw.

                            perfect, will check that immediatly!! Thanks

                            IHFFIH

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                            • JiiJ
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                              My two favorite workhorses.

                              AIAN HA-TO!

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                              • FridayF
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                                so jealous.. indeed a classic!!

                                @sascha you won't be disappointed with the MM.. some put it at par with Rolex Sub

                                Tough, heavy and ready! = IRON HEART

                                ~Shinici Haraki~

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                                • GraemeG
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                                  Since there are a bunch of Blancpain fans around here, there's a piece on the new Bathyscaphe Flyback Chronograph at aBlogToWatch.

                                  It's got a new, 5 Hz in-house movement, and the pushers can be operated at depths up to 300 metres. Unfortunately you probably won't be in a fit state to do so if you're at that depth…

                                  Meanwhile, over at Hodinkee, there's the announcement of the new Jaeger LeCoultre Geophysic 1958.

                                  If I was drawing up the specs of my ideal watch, it would be water and shock resistant, anti-magnetic, chronometer rated, have an interesting in-house movement, and be wearable both formally and casually. I reckon this piece does it.

                                  For the watch nerds, the original Geophysic was derived from the Jaeger Mark XI, which is one of my favourite vintage pieces.

                                  I'm very tempted…

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                                  • Megatron1505M
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                                    I know the majority of this thread focus's on watches which cost the same as a small island, but I was looking for an opinion on the Seiko Monster diving watches. I know that they might not be everyones thing aesthetically, just wondering if they are good enough to be worn daily for a number of years as an everyday thing.

                                    I'm not a watch nerd, but my Rado is just about dead so a replacement is not a million miles away.

                                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                    • GraemeG
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                                      The Monster is (I believe) a mechanical watch, so it should be good for at least five years if you don't service it. Possibly indefinitely if you do get it serviced, but that's likely to cost as much as watch did in the first place!

                                      What sort of Rado do you have Gav? Again, getting it serviced could get it back to an as-new condition.

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                                      • tmgT
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                                        I've been drawn to Bremont's recently, and find the Codebreaker quite interesting, although at £11k it's a bit steep for what it offers

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                                        • AnesthetistA
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                                          The Monster is a great value and a fantastic watch. I love that JLC, but 9800 is too rich for me. Maybe if I can find one on the secondary market.

                                          IG: bluehandsslim

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                                          • ChrisC
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                                            The Monster is indeed an automatic, and a very good one.  There are millions of them out in the world, and for good reason.  They're cheap and they last forever, and if you feel like making one truly your own, there are endless aftermarket parts and people willing to modify your watch for you.

                                            One thing to look for when buying- recently Seiko changed the movement from the 6R15 to the 4R36.  The new one can be hand wound (the old one had to be shaken to wind) and "hacks", meaning that the second hand stops when you set the time.  In the 6R15, the second hand kept running while you set the time.  If those things matter to you, make sure you get a newer model- manufactured in the last couple of years.  If that doesn't matter, I'd recommend buying on the used market. Watch Recon is a good place to start.

                                            Oh, and I'm not a Seiko fanboy, but the Monster's reputation among the watch nerd crowd is really impeccable.  It's a great choice if you like the aesthetics.

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